i was studying with jehovah's witnesses during my college years.
i found that they somehow was able to make me understand many of the meanings from the bible that i had never understood before.
i had a clearer sight of what it was to walk as a christian.
The internet is a funny thing.
Funny, how? How is it funny? You know what you said? Does it amuse you? Make you laugh? What's so funny about it? Come on, tell me. What is SO FUNNY about the internet? You might be genuine but you don't sound/write like any JW I've ever come across.
i have read a few postings (which of course i cannot find now) concerning the early jewish beliefs were of a polytheistic nature.
many gods were believed in, and jehovah was only one.
i also recall that mention was made that the ancient jewish believed that satan and jehovah were the same god!
Karen Armstrong and Elaine Pagels are both gifted authors. Recommended.
the most eerie and fascinating passage i ever read in any of the jw literature (literature??
) was in the red book, life everlasting in freedom of the sons of god.
i wish i had written the quote down.
As fare as evolution is concerned, I don't buy it, if man evolved from apes, there wouldn't be any apes around now, I don't deny that some species might have adapted but I believe the original of these was designed, also if evolution was true, I think man would have wings now, we've been fascinated with flying for ages, we'd also be able to breath underwater.
Let me be the first......
These are common misconceptions of what biological selection and diversity over millions of years has produced. The modern ape family is just as evolved as humans, just different branches from the same tree. And why in the world would humans be able to fly and breathe underwater?
hello everyone.
have recently met someone, amazing person!
however have many questions about jw's and wt.
I'm sorry to hear that, jgnat. Nearly 20 years ago the Watchtower used this example:
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w87 10/15 p. 29 Opening the Way to Increase in Gibraltar ***In one case a young Witness, ignoring the counsel from the Author of marriage, started dating a local girl who was not a member of the congregation. But the patient help of the elders in the congregation made him think more seriously about the dangers involved. Finally, he approached his girlfriend and told her that although he felt strong affection for her, his Bible knowledge obligated him to terminate their relationship. ‘I want to marry a girl with whom I can live forever, not just for a few years,’ he explained.
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But today in practical living, unbelieving mates who aren't drunks, abusers, or lazy bums seem to at least be all right around these parts.
1. is the wt accurate when they say that christendom erased the name 'jehovah" out of the bible?
and is it safe to say that the wt has inserted the name back in more places than it was actually in it.
i have heard talks that in many scriptures where it should simply be lord they've just inserted"jehovah.
1a. Is the WT accurate when they say that Christendom erased the name 'Jehovah" out of the bible?
Several Bibles other than the Name nearly as often as the NWT. The NWTC has accomplished some good work in explanations of why Jehovah is rendered in certain sections, although in private correspondence George Howard admits that he thinks the WTS has taken his theory too far into the realm of historical fact.
2. Where can you find great deals on I-PODS, besides E-bay.
They all cost about the same everywhere. Try stealing one from some kid, preferably an overweight one so you can outrun him.
3. My car may need a new part (its called and EGR-valve) Being that I am a girl, how do I keep these mechanics from swindling me out of my money?
Give it a good shake and if it rattles, pony up the extra $15.00.
4. A couple months ago the congregations passed out the 'annual service reports' for each individual person. You know, the little card that reminded you that whatever you are doing in the ministry is not enogh. Well I did not get mine. Sure I was irregular but that irregualr? And the brother was like 'oh, I will give you yours sunday. LIAR! I never got mine. Hmmmm. Any ideas why?
Did his slacks smell of burnt polyester?
5. Know of any interactive math websites that can help me with my algebra. EEK! We started polynomials today! And I thought it wouldn't get worse than equations!
What's a polleeknowmeall?
6. And last but not least: Who' s side are you on? Jennifer or Angelina?
I have been in love with Jen Aniston since 1984.
beards!
in my congregation it is frowned apon.
a male can have one but he wouldnt get any privilidges and would probably be labeled the black sheep.
Several years ago a 'brother' developed a skin condition where he could not shave for several months and the first thing he'd feel obliged to tell people was "I'm not falling out of The Truth!"
My first month of inactivity, I grew a goatee and got a few kidding comments that my face had "dirt" on it.
I remember it was always a kick when a JW from Australia or Britain would be visiting Niagara Falls and made a tour of local congos and sported trendy spectacles and a cool goatee. Sisters would be overheard to say, "I wish the 'brothers' here could get away with that, they look so good!"
Then there's this classic from the litteracher:
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w54 8/15 p. 511 Questions from Readers ***Watch Tower publications show Jesus as beardless and with short hair because he is shown that way in representations of him that are older than the traditional effeminate-looking picture.
bad?
i have done research on it lately.
actually for a couple of yrs now, on and off.
Guys, sheesh, I was being facetious about the drunkenness and gluttony. I just think it's silly to worry for days about what to do on the fourth Thursday of November. If the Bible is your authority, you know, God never meant for the Hebrews to have a king; the people themselves wanted one. Before the kings people 'did what was right in their own eyes.' I recommend that advice to you, dfed.
hello everyone.
have recently met someone, amazing person!
however have many questions about jw's and wt.
I'd say you're on the right track. Even if she stays a JW and you don't join I don't think there's nearly the same ostracism there was 30 years ago for being "unevenly yoked." Learn as much as you can about the JWs and don't be afraid to voice your own opinions to her and her congregation/elders. Be warned, though, oftentimes your wife will have to choose a "theocratic activity" instead of time with you and you might develop resentment for that. Or, if you get married, you might enjoy having the house to yourself a couple nights a week and Sunday mornings. :)
so i finally decided to get my a** to the library and read some real research on cults.
the book i'm starting with is "psychodynamic perspectives on religion, sect and cult.
in the introduction they mention margaret thaler singer's definition of a destructive cult as an organization in which:a leader claims divinity or special relationship with god.
Well it's highly unlikely that the JW leadership would issue a mass suicide directive. But in the event of an appearance that Babylon is on its way down and some form of "peace and security" is declared (beyond 1986 of course), there's no doubt in my mind the majority of JWs will do whatever they are told to do. Heck, very many JW males prepare for prison when they turn 18 in certain lands because military service is required at that age for at least a couple of years. And think of all the JWs who completely changed their lives and went into special pioneer or missionary service to avoid Vietnam. If the fervor reaches a high enough point, I think JWs are capable of about anything, and like another poster mentioned, directives coming from a nameless and faceless "faithful slave class" works very well with an international, multi-million membership.
the most eerie and fascinating passage i ever read in any of the jw literature (literature??
) was in the red book, life everlasting in freedom of the sons of god.
i wish i had written the quote down.
I just wanted to say, Good points Elsewhere.
Here's what gets me when it comes to the WT explanation of "why things are how they are':
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sl chap. 4 pp. 62-63 The Transforming of the Messianic "Servant" ***The issue [of Jehovah's universal sovereignty] had been raised in the Garden of Eden, shortly after the creation of the perfect Adam and Eve. At that time the spirit son of God who is now Satan the Devil saw what he thought was an opportunity to establish a sovereignty of his own, over mankind at least, if not also over angels. He rebelled against his heavenly Father Jehovah and broke away from that One’s sovereignty. Then, by means of Eve as a temptress, Satan put the pressure upon the perfect man Adam to join him in rebellion against the Universal Sovereign Jehovah. In this way the issue of universal sovereignty was raised for the first time. The question now was, not just, Who among mankind will adhere to Jehovah’s universal sovereignty, but, more critically, Who in heaven will keep integrity toward the Most High God and remain loyal and faithful to His universal sovereignty as the right thing for all creation?
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For this reason, the paramount issue reached as high up as to the foremost heavenly son of God, Jehovah’s chief official, "the firstborn of all creation." (Colossians 1:15; Revelation 3:14) His official position in heaven was that of Logos, or Word, Spokesman. (John 1:1-3) Above all other creations of Jehovah God, this highest official of God needed to be tested and proved on this issue of unselfish devotion to Jehovah’s universal sovereignty. Till Job’s time and for more than fifteen centuries afterward he had kept his integrity to his heavenly Father Jehovah. He had conducted himself faultlessly as his Father’s principal official, The Word. Ah, yes, but that was without suffering bodily pain, that was without undergoing the deepest humiliation and undeserved dishonor. That was not down here on this earth as a man like the perfect Adam in the Garden of Eden. But now, let this highly honored and respected official of God experience such adverse things here on earth—at the hands of Satan the Devil—and then let us see whether he will keep his integrity to God and remain submissive to His universal sovereignty! Logically, that was Satan’s line of reasoning.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Come now. Jesus had seen the Flood, he'd seen babies being burned in sacrifice, he'd witnessed every form of atrocity man had subjected each other to. His mission of integrity keeping pales in comparison, especially since he knew he'd get his life back, and an incorruptible, imperishable one at that. At least the Christadelphians don't believe in Jesus' prehuman existence and ultimate advantage he would have had being alive in heaven for billions of years prior to his earthly home.
