I saw it for the first time. In a very pricy shopping center in an upscale area, these two witnesses couples had a booth, very similar to those for cellphones, and they were trying to attract people to it and passing out magazines and other literature.
After the shock, I got to thinking:
*Thing must REALLY be getting desperate
*Are they still asking for donations? Because I don't see how they can justify the funding to pay for expensive mall floor space.
*Is this a widespread trend nowadays or are those few doing it on their own?
Any comments?
divejunkie
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Setting a shopping mall booth for preaching? Is that the newest trend?
by divejunkie ini saw it for the first time.
in a very pricy shopping center in an upscale area, these two witnesses couples had a booth, very similar to those for cellphones, and they were trying to attract people to it and passing out magazines and other literature.
after the shock, i got to thinking: .
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gay sister? Need input
by divejunkie ini haven't posted here in ages.
but i have this huge question mark in my head and this is the perfect place to get some feedback without compromising my sister.
my sister is an active jw.
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Thank you for answering.
In response to some of the questions or suggestions asked backed to me:
* I have been minding my own business. I have never been intrusive with her decisions and she knows my views on gay people- starting with the fact that one of my oldest and dearest friends is gay.
* She also knows that we are out of the borg and what my feelings are about the WT.
* What gives me the idea that they might be gay, is the nature of their relationship. The way they talk to each other, sit next to each other, fight and make up with each other,etc. There are way too many things to mention, but like I said on my original post, I'm talking of about 20 years of observations here.
* I guess the general consensus is that I need to stay out of it- which is what I've been doing all this time. Maybe it's true that they have both made a decision to leave things as they are. But it is so hard to watch someone you love loose her joy and spirit little by little.
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gay sister? Need input
by divejunkie ini haven't posted here in ages.
but i have this huge question mark in my head and this is the perfect place to get some feedback without compromising my sister.
my sister is an active jw.
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No. I faded out and been out for about 8 years now.
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gay sister? Need input
by divejunkie ini haven't posted here in ages.
but i have this huge question mark in my head and this is the perfect place to get some feedback without compromising my sister.
my sister is an active jw.
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Sorry about the double post. I was trying to put breaks in the paragraphs to make it easier to read.
Don't know what I'm doing wrong.
Here is the message again with breaks (hopefully)
I haven't posted here in ages. But I have this huge question mark in my head and this is the perfect place to get some feedback without compromising my sister.
My sister is an active JW. She is the most loving, sweet, generous person I've ever met. She is single and in her late 30's. I love her to pieces and there is nothing she could say or do that would make me feel otherwise.
I also think she is gay and very much in the closet. She has her best friend - whom we know and been friends with for at least 20 years. She is also in her 30's and single and also a JW. I believe that their friendship is really a lesbian relationship. The fact that they're both in their 30's and single is not the reason why I think what I think. But all along their friendship they have had a very unique dinamic between them - one that looks and feels like a couple as opposed to best friends. I won't go into the details of it, but you gotta trust me on this.
The reason why I'm bringing this up is because I also feel that she is truly unhappy. The kind of unhappyness that comes when you are living a lie and not being true to yourself. I think many of us here-gay or straight- can relate to what I'm saying. She is the kind of person that will never purposefully do anything to upset anyone. Especially our parents. I think that between the pressure of the borg and the fear of upseting and being rejected by our JW parents and brother she has sentenced herself to living in the closet and not fulfilling her own dreams or desires. I think they both have.
I would love for her to be comfortable enough with me to open her heart and tell me what is really going on with her life. That way she could know that I love her and accept her in any way she is and she (they)won't be judged or shunned by us if they are indeed gay.
We have spoken about her emotional state and she "claims" to be in love with an impossible - because the "guy" is not a JW and that is why she has resigned herself not to have him - you know, the whole "marry only in the lord" thing. Coincidentally, her best friend also has the same situation, and guess with whom? The "guy's" brother. Now these two "guys" have no names and nobody knows who they are. Not even their worldy friends and coworkers. Needless to say, I don't buy one bit.
Here is my question to you: How can I get her to tell me the truth without insulting her. I'm not trying to "out" her to the world. I just want her to know that, at least with us, she can be herself and I will accept her and love her and support her the same as always. I want her to confide in me, so I can help her deal with her sadness. Please give me some ideas. -
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gay sister? Need input
by divejunkie ini haven't posted here in ages.
but i have this huge question mark in my head and this is the perfect place to get some feedback without compromising my sister.
my sister is an active jw.
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divejunkie
I haven't posted here in ages. But I have this huge question mark in my head and this is the perfect place to get some feedback without compromising my sister. My sister is an active JW. She is the most loving, sweet, generous person I've ever met. She is single and in her late 30's. I love her to pieces and there is nothing she could say or do that would make me feel otherwise. I also think she is gay and very much in the closet. She has her best friend - whom we know and been friends with for at least 20 years. She is also in her 30's and single and also a JW. I believe that their friendship is really a lesbian relationship. The fact that they're both in their 30's and single is not the reason why I think what I think. But all along their friendship they have had a very unique dinamic between them - one that looks and feels like a couple as opposed to best friends. I won't go into the details of it, but you gotta trust me on this. The reason why I'm bringing this up is because I also feel that she is truly unhappy. The kind of unhappyness that comes when you are living a lie and not being true to yourself. I think many of us here-gay or straight- can relate to what I'm saying. She is the kind of person that will never purposefully do anything to upset anyone. Especially our parents. I think that between the pressure of the borg and the fear of upseting and being rejected by our JW parents and brother she has sentenced herself to living in the closet and not fulfilling her own dreams or desires. I think they both have. I would love for her to be comfortable enough with me to open her heart and tell me what is really going on with her life. That way she could know that I love her and accept her in any way she is and she (they)won't be judged or shunned by us if they are indeed gay. We have spoken about her emotional state and she "claims" to be in love with an impossible - because the "guy" is not a JW and that is why she has resigned herself not to have him - you know, the whole "marry only in the lord" thing. Coincidentally, her best friend also has the same situation, and guess with whom? The "guy's" brother. Now these two "guys" have no names and nobody knows who they are. Not even their worldy friends and coworkers. Needless to say, I don't buy one bit. Here is my question to you: How can I get her to tell me the truth without insulting her. I'm not trying to "out" her to the world. I just want her to know that, at least with us, she can be herself and I will accept her and love her and support her the same as always. I want her to confide in me, so I can help her deal with her sadness. Please give me some ideas.
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gay sister? Need input
by divejunkie ini haven't posted here in ages.
but i have this huge question mark in my head and this is the perfect place to get some feedback without compromising my sister.
my sister is an active jw.
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divejunkie
I haven't posted here in ages. But I have this huge question mark in my head and this is the perfect place to get some feedback without compromising my sister. My sister is an active JW. She is the most loving, sweet, generous person I've ever met. She is single and in her late 30's. I love her to pieces and there is nothing she could say or do that would make me feel otherwise. I also think she is gay and very much in the closet. She has her best friend - whom we know and been friends with for at least 20 years. She is also in her 30's and single and also a JW. I believe that their friendship is really a lesbian relationship. The fact that they're both in their 30's and single is not the reason why I think what I think. But all along their friendship they have had a very unique dinamic between them - one that looks and feels like a couple as opposed to best friends. I won't go into the details of it, but you gotta trust me on this. The reason why I'm bringing this up is because I also feel that she is truly unhappy. The kind of unhappyness that comes when you are living a lie and not being true to yourself. I think many of us here-gay or straight- can relate to what I'm saying. She is the kind of person that will never purposefully do anything to upset anyone. Especially our parents. I think that between the pressure of the borg and the fear of upseting and being rejected by our JW parents and brother she has sentenced herself to living in the closet and not fulfilling her own dreams or desires. I think they both have. I would love for her to be comfortable enough with me to open her heart and tell me what is really going on with her life. That way she could know that I love her and accept her in any way she is and she (they)won't be judged or shunned by us if they are indeed gay. We have spoken about her emotional state and she "claims" to be in love with an impossible - because the "guy" is not a JW and that is why she has resigned herself not to have him - you know, the whole "marry only in the lord" thing. Coincidentally, her best friend also has the same situation, and guess with whom? The "guy's" brother. Now these two "guys" have no names and nobody knows who they are. Not even their worldy friends and coworkers. Needless to say, I don't buy one bit. Here is my question to you: How can I get her to tell me the truth without insulting her. I'm not trying to "out" her to the world. I just want her to know that, at least with us, she can be herself and I will accept her and love her and support her the same as always. I want her to confide in me, so I can help her deal with her sadness. Please give me some ideas.
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I lived that situation but with a single baby. I was still in the borg, at least in name. But the fiasco of "support" from the "brotherhood" became the defining point in my husband and I leaving for good. It's the only good thing from going thru a situation like that.
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LAME (or funny) JW "Get together" stories, please...
by exwitless inok,i've been sick for 2 days (sore throat, feeling run-down) so i could use some good laughs.
something just made me think of how absurdly lame jw "get-togethers" always were.
there were several that we went to (when we were still being love-bombed as newbies) where we ate dinner, then played bible pictionary.
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I guess the lame level depended on who the host was. And maybe it's a cultural thing, but when we used to live in Puerto Rico, our get-togethers were "PARTIES" Good food, and plenty of music (lots of salsa and merengue to dance to). They would frown to playing "american" music- that was consider "risque", but we had fun. If the group at the party was close and not uptight the games were fun also. One of my favorites would be "War Heroes". You should try it sometime. You ask for some volunteers that don't know the game and blind fold them. Bring them in and start telling a story while the other guests watch. Basically you tell them that they will be meeting a "war heroe" or "an accident victim" that doesn't want to be seen because of the condition he's in after his ordeal. And then you start making up the details, the more graphic and disturbing, the better - things like open, oozing wounds, gauged eyes, etc. As you are telling the story you have the blind folded person "touch" the victim in the place where the injury is supposed to be. The fun starts because ahead of time you prepare things for the people to stick their fingers in, sticky, slimy, thick-liquid, etc. Use your imagination. Then you see the power of suggestion- people would freak out when they touched the stuff. It was a huge laugh seeing the reactions. But when I moved to the states, every party was lame!!! Boring with games like what's being mentioned before, no dancing, just people sitting around talking and eating.
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LAME (or funny) JW "Get together" stories, please...
by exwitless inok,i've been sick for 2 days (sore throat, feeling run-down) so i could use some good laughs.
something just made me think of how absurdly lame jw "get-togethers" always were.
there were several that we went to (when we were still being love-bombed as newbies) where we ate dinner, then played bible pictionary.
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divejunkie
I guess the lame level depended on who the host was.
And maybe it's a cultural thing, but when we used to live in Puerto Rico, our get-togethers were "PARTIES"
Good food, and plenty of music (lots of salsa and merengue to dance to). They would frown to playing "american" music- that was consider "risque", but we had fun.
If the group at the party was close and not uptight the games were fun also. One of my favorites would be "War Heroes". You should try it sometime. You ask for some volunteers that don't know the game and blind fold them. Bring them in and start telling a story while the other guests watch. Basically you tell them that they will be meeting a "war heroe" or "an accident victim" that doesn't want to be seen because of the condition he's in after his ordeal. And then you start making up the details, the more graphic and disturbing, the better - things like open, oozing wounds, gauged eyes, etc. As you are telling the story you have the blind folded person "touch" the victim in the place where the injury is supposed to be.
The fun starts because ahead of time you prepare things for the people to stick their fingers in, sticky, slimy, thick-liquid, etc. Use your imagination.
Then you see the power of suggestion- people would freak out when they touched the stuff. It was a huge laugh seeing the reactions.
But when I moved to the states, every party was lame!!! Boring with games like what's being mentioned before, no dancing, just people sitting around talking and eating. -
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Someone please explain!!
by noni1974 inwhat is pornea?
?i've heard this term before and i never knew exactly what it meant.why is it diffrant than fornication?
?why when people go to jc do they have to find out if it's been committed?
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For a JW, pornea is anything that makes your conscience hurts and everything else feel good!!!!!