ok as you have gathered im a wittness and i for one beleave we have the truth.not saying every thing is or has all ways been right because we live in a imperfect world with imperfect people.but as far as jehovah being God and jesus being his son.and the coming war of arrmegeddon.i would say we have the truth.i no about all the mistakes and misunderstandings we have had in the past.but i feel that is past and we have moved on.and abandoned i no what you all say about the year 607 being wrong but that date all deapends on it desolation was 70 years or not.so im just trying to understand how some of you say you lernt you was being lied to?
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ok why havent we got the truth?
by PMJ inok as you have gathered im a wittness and i for one beleave we have the truth.not saying every thing is or has all ways been right because we live in a imperfect world with imperfect people.but as far as jehovah being god and jesus being his son.and the coming war of arrmegeddon.i would say we have the truth.i no about all the mistakes and misunderstandings we have had in the past.but i feel that is past and we have moved on.and abandoned i no what you all say about the year 607 being wrong but that date all deapends on it desolation was 70 years or not.so im just trying to understand how some of you say you lernt you was being lied to?
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144000....DO THE NUMBERS ADD UP?????
by chuckyy inas jws we were told only 144000 go to heaven from the time of christ right up to this day.it dawned on me before i was baptized one day during my study that the numbers dont add up.
the brother was telling me that the roman persecutions of the christians were killing thousands every week.
initially, within weeks of jesus death, there were 5000 christians at least in jerusalem.
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PMJ
ok just saying your right.what happens to people who dead before jesus?if every one after jesus dead goes to heaven.were does that leave the people who dead before?
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144000....DO THE NUMBERS ADD UP?????
by chuckyy inas jws we were told only 144000 go to heaven from the time of christ right up to this day.it dawned on me before i was baptized one day during my study that the numbers dont add up.
the brother was telling me that the roman persecutions of the christians were killing thousands every week.
initially, within weeks of jesus death, there were 5000 christians at least in jerusalem.
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PMJ
hey im not the judge you seem to think there is no reward for all the faithull jehovahs wittnesses correct? pratice what you preach
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144000....DO THE NUMBERS ADD UP?????
by chuckyy inas jws we were told only 144000 go to heaven from the time of christ right up to this day.it dawned on me before i was baptized one day during my study that the numbers dont add up.
the brother was telling me that the roman persecutions of the christians were killing thousands every week.
initially, within weeks of jesus death, there were 5000 christians at least in jerusalem.
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PMJ
we both agree that over the period of 1900 years.there was 144000 selected what your saying is any one who professed to be christian would be granted to be in that class of 14400 correct?what i was saying was jehovah would of selected ones he felt were to be rulers with christ.or are you telling me you new the hearts of all these people who lived through the 1900 years?
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144000....DO THE NUMBERS ADD UP?????
by chuckyy inas jws we were told only 144000 go to heaven from the time of christ right up to this day.it dawned on me before i was baptized one day during my study that the numbers dont add up.
the brother was telling me that the roman persecutions of the christians were killing thousands every week.
initially, within weeks of jesus death, there were 5000 christians at least in jerusalem.
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PMJ
as seen as i no so little please direct me to the watchtower article that says that?thanks
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144000....DO THE NUMBERS ADD UP?????
by chuckyy inas jws we were told only 144000 go to heaven from the time of christ right up to this day.it dawned on me before i was baptized one day during my study that the numbers dont add up.
the brother was telling me that the roman persecutions of the christians were killing thousands every week.
initially, within weeks of jesus death, there were 5000 christians at least in jerusalem.
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PMJ
just because there was faithul men and women through those 1900 years doesnt mean all of them were chosen to be part of the 144000
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need some help plz!
by needsomehelpwiththis1 inhi everyone i am doing a reaerch report on jehovahs witness and i am a bit stuck on some things.
if you guys could help me it would be much appreciated.. .
1. religiouos rituals and customs.. 2.books and writings used by the religion.. 3. countries the religion is practiced in.. 4. what happens after death(belief).
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PMJ
hi i hope i can help you with your quetions please mail me andi will answer your questions.as from the answers you have all ready recived your proberly feel very confused.but please dont pay atention to them.a lot of these people left the jws for many diffrent reasons and then complain to a computer every day about it.i can assure you that jehovahs wittnesses are a God loving people who do there very best to serve God.i can tell you first hand i dont serve the watchtower i serve jehovah God.these people were ovesley serving for the wrong reasons.but thats there choise and there lose.if these people honestly felt they were serving the watchtower they them selves are admiting they didnt serve God.
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hi, can u guys answer this for me??
by apologetics inhi , im dan .
just checking out your forums etc, .
can you guys please confirm who these scriptures are talking about, all are from revelations,.
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we have the truth there is no doubt
by PMJ injehovahs wittnesses have the truth there is no doubt about i.people can say what they like ut there is no other group of people who bring glory to jehovah
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well u ovesly new what it ment so whats the problem.why am i a child are you telling me going to the doctor when you have the floo isnt the best thing to do?whats moaning about it to your friends going to do?
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UN AND THE WITTNESSES
by PMJ inita funny last night i looked through some awakes from 1991 through 2001.and i saw a lot of refrences saying the un is the beast from revaltion there is also a article about the pope visiting the un.you should all read it its the 1996 awake7/8 funny thing is why would some one who is surporting the un say these things about them.ovesly some people ar cluthing at straws
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PMJ
hey i never called you a lair i simply said some people are clutching at straws but thanks for your honesty its to be comended