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  What Are "Unfair" Things JWs Made You Do?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  i was thinking how unnatural it is for most people to knock on stranger's doors and tell them that if they don't respond to what they were trying to get across, that they were going to be killed by god.

  .....then there's the obligation to join the theocratic ministry school and go on a platform and give talks---even if you had a phobia!

  .....or you're made to feel that you must answer at the meetings even if you're extremely shy.....are there other things that you can think of that made you totally uncomfortable?

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  rowan

  being hounded out in service with 100 degrees or more outside. and if I looked dehydrated and miserable I was bringing reproach to Johova. oh I remember going by houses where kids were playing in a swimming pool! another time we were in service, I was about 6, I fell on my shin on a ridge of hard dirt, my mom asked a woman in the street who was watering her plants for some water to clean my profusely bleeding wound, and on we went. I am thankful I did not get tetanus, or osteomyelitis. I still have a huge scar on my leg from that gash. (of course if my dad, who had a little more sense in him had been there I would have had proper wound care and tetanus serum STAT, at the time I had no proper inmunizations in me)

  being forced to sit down at the meetings for 12 months waiting for reinstatement that was denied. being forced to sit down at the meetings here in the US for 2 more years waiting for that same reinstatement that was denied by the original body of elders once again, after 4 years of not seeing me. finally it took some heavy duties at Bethel down in my country to remove my file from those grudging elders to a more favorable body for me to get back in, so I could get to see my very elderly parents again. Yeah, I am going to come back after that. thank you for showing me the light, bastards.
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  The term: To disfellowship in spanish congregations...

  by suavojr in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the english congregations they used to announce that brother x has been disfellowshipped.

  but in the spanish congregations the announcement was made using the word expulsado (spanish)= expel in english.

  when i look up the word disfellowship, this is what i found:.

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  rowan

  I don't know if that would be the reason, but "expelled" has a worse emotional connotation than "excommunicated". there is no exact translation for "disfellowhipped" that I am aware of.
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  BORN-INS! What Were The Most Annoying Quotes Your Parents Would Say?

  by OneStepOut93 in

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  2. friends

  regarding worldly people, shows or toys?

  etc...what quotes annoyed you the most?.

  for me it was "well, you have to remember, they're worldly"... "don't trust anyone who isn't in the truth" "they may be nice but they are not friends of jehovah"... just a few to name.

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  rowan

  After I was disfellowshipped my mother told me that I was like Eli's sons.
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  Love Thy Neighbor? Not my JW neighbors.

  by jws in

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  2. friends

  i live next to jw neighbors.

  i was a jw 1000 miles away over 20 years ago, never here.

  as far as i know, nobody here knows i once was, including the neighbors.. so there wouldn't be any reason for them to shun me.

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  rowan

  I don't think this has to do with their religion. It's being an airhead, I think. It's really nice for you to take out their trash, but if it irks you... it's really not your job to do that for them.
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  What is the most out of line / disturbing experience you have seen from Circuit Overseers?

  by Poindexter Lionel Humperdique in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i once heard of a circuit overseer blaming a loyal ministerial servant, that served as the accounts servant, of steeling from the contribution boxes, simply because he deposited the congregation funds bi-weekly instead of twice a week.

  due to the accusation, the ms was immediately removed without hearing his side of the story.

  isn't this rather counter-intuitive and innefficient?

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  rowan

  I got another one! this is a very old story, from before I was born, but my family still LOLs about it.

  My dad always made my grandma's house available to the COs for their visits after she passed away. It goes without saying, they all loved the privacy of being on their own for a week (where I come from the COs almost always have to stay with whomever is giving them a room, and most often they do not even get a bathroom of their own). well, as it happens, the CO lady got preggers. hehe. and the guy had the gall of complaining to my father that she got pregnant while they were staying at my grandma's cottage!!!
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  What is the most out of line / disturbing experience you have seen from Circuit Overseers?

  by Poindexter Lionel Humperdique in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i once heard of a circuit overseer blaming a loyal ministerial servant, that served as the accounts servant, of steeling from the contribution boxes, simply because he deposited the congregation funds bi-weekly instead of twice a week.

  due to the accusation, the ms was immediately removed without hearing his side of the story.

  isn't this rather counter-intuitive and innefficient?

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  rowan

  Oh Marvin, that is a heartbreaking story. and sadly, so typical of these bulldog puppies. kudos for the elderly guy who stood up for himself.
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  What is the most out of line / disturbing experience you have seen from Circuit Overseers?

  by Poindexter Lionel Humperdique in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i once heard of a circuit overseer blaming a loyal ministerial servant, that served as the accounts servant, of steeling from the contribution boxes, simply because he deposited the congregation funds bi-weekly instead of twice a week.

  due to the accusation, the ms was immediately removed without hearing his side of the story.

  isn't this rather counter-intuitive and innefficient?

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  rowan

  1st: MIddle aged CO obsessed with demons and teenage sex. He would hound small groups of teens after the meetings to talk about masturbation and why shy girls get pregnant first.

  second: parasitic CO who would blast my family from the platform for materialism, but gladly accept the privacy of a cottage provided by my father for his visits, we would then get bills for hundreds of dollars from international telephone calls made by his wife to her family...

  ...same guy, in my house, within yards of my hearing (I was 14 yo), on the phone with elders from another congo, yelling out loud how they had to "kick out" this "leech" who was "poisoning the congregation". I went to school with "the leech's" daughter, so I knew all about the witch hunt that was going on.
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  Question to re-instated ones or those who know them

  by ItsMyLife in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi guys and gals.

  i hope you're all enjoying your lives, whatever path you have chosen.. i have a question for anyone who is currently re-instated, has previously been re-instated, or knows and is still in contact with a re-instated one.. my question is this:.

  is the main reason for getting re-instated:.

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  rowan

  family obviously. I dropped them like a hot potato the moment they did the announcement.
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  How Long has it Been since you Last Attended Meetings and What Caused...

  by flipper in

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  2. friends

  ..... you to stop attending ?

  injustices ?

  disagree with the teachings ?

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  rowan

  11 years ago in February. I had been DF the year prior and was planning to leave the country once reinstated. They did not want to reinstate me. But I had done my effort and my father supported my career move. The hall had a long hallway to the street. It is one of the unforgettable moments of my life, running towards the street through that hall, knowing that I would never have to step on it again.

  Then I met my husband and he set me mentally free. I attended meetings after that (I got reinstated after several years, so I could see my parents again) but I was free. Those don't count.
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  Some fairly alarming medical news in Discovery magazine - Nov. 2010 issue:

  by james_woods in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  expose article on dangers and misrepresentations of a number of new drugs - some points made:.

  1) - according to an agency for healthcare research and quality report in 2001, more than 770,000 americans die each year from drug complications.. 2) - care patients don't need of failing to give care that is necessary accounts for an estimated 30% of the annual health care budget - more than 2.4 trillion dollars per year.. 3) - avandia, the diabetes drug made by glaxosmithkline was subject to 42 studies and a 2007 report by dr. steven nissen which showed it plainly increased chances of heart attack and death.

  the u.s. senate committee on finance says the company knew about the cardiac side effects for several years before this report was published.. 4) - in 2002 jama published results of a huge study, called the antihypertensive and lipid-lowering treatment to prevent heart attack, or allhat, which showed that inexpensive generic drugs such as diuretics were just as effective as name brand drugs for controlling blood pressure.

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  rowan

  Drug reps were not allowed in the organization where I trained, nor are they allowed where I currently work. I prefer to prescribe old drugs, not only because they are in the Walmart $4 list, but they are really well known and I have experience with them. I believe that not dealing with reps is becoming a trend in all big health care systems because of the stringent regulations they are subjected to.