Posts by sosad

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I hate it when they make me cry!!

by Scully in

i thought i was pretty much immune to any jws being able to tug at my heartstrings anymore.. mr scully and i were out shopping this morning, when someone called my name and then grabbed me and gave me a big hug.

i hadn't seen her in over 15 years.

back then, she was a teenager and i was about 10 years older than her... but we hit it off really well and mr scully and i became really good friends with her and her parents.

sosad

I am so sorry for you! But don't hate it when they make you cry - my Traditional Catholic Husband has often told me to "offer up" sadness or hurt - we never know what good it may do.

Also, the spirit that you showed this person may one day help her to remember that non or ex jw does not mean evil, vindictive frothing at the mouth apostate as she has been taught.

It sounds to me that you listened to her with sympathy if not empathy and left her with the emotional impact of many things swirling around in your head which means probably her's as well... She will go home and tell her parents and others...it will stick with her and maybe even some of them.

I say well done...who knows how this will ultimately play itself out.

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How old did you expect to be when the New System would come?

by JH in

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i became a jw at age 28 and no way did i expect to ever get older than 40 years old in this system.. maybe at the extreme, i could have imagined being 45 years old, not more..

sosad

i phoned my mom the day my eldest started Kindergarten and told her "it's hard to believe he's starting school"...i didn't add that this was surprising since I was never supposed to start school "in this system of things". She knew exactly what I ment and tried to spin it into how much closer etc but I stopped the train cold. My eldest is nine and I'm 40.

Shortly after I left I caught wind about the generational thing changing and I told my husband that if they ever pulled that, most of the jws that I knew would leave- including my mom.

Her and I spoke about it once and she told me that it showed just how far from j I was if i could not understand the new light....it just got more sureal from there

she's also told me that no one was ever told not to go to school, the generation was not taught as absolute, we didn't move where the need was great in ' 75 becasue the Org counselled it, she never stayed with her emotionally abusive husband because the elders told her she as the wife needed to be submissive and try more....many, how much time you got? they are all nuts... if there was a styrophome glass of koolaid, and they told her/all of them to drink it, i know where i put my money

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Possible clue to the "Big" Announcement!!

by Lady Liberty in

my husband, the black pearl, had a interesting conversation with his mother today.

she was trying to be all kiss butt nice, for today that is, to tell him about the new tract that is coming out in october.

apparently they don't have it yet.

sosad

intersting if the tracts are the "mag size" ones - haven't seen those sice pre- 1975. also - this reminds me a lot of a series of Watchtowers taht came out in late '88- early '89 . The KH was salivating over the expected persecution that the societies attack on religion would bring. Everyone was convinced that this campaign heralded the end of the end. not one thing happened - even with all the baiting the elders/pioneers and realy strong publishers did to the disinterested householders

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Elders and MS Meeting that includes Wives

by sosad in

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i found this interesting.

my mom was over today - she tried to steer the conversation a bit but i didn't take the bait (thanks to this board i knew she was gunning for the new tract "bad religion is bad" discussion.

she had to go home because they were going "out" tonight - of course, i asked where.

sosad

to clarify, I asked about the coffee bit and mom said that they would no doubt go out after... and they were called at home by the PO and very specifically told, I mean asked to bring their wives along. She was of course considering it quite a privledge to be asked - it was a Friday night, most likly at 7:30 (isn't that what time all kh meetings start?)

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Elders and MS Meeting that includes Wives

by sosad in

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i found this interesting.

my mom was over today - she tried to steer the conversation a bit but i didn't take the bait (thanks to this board i knew she was gunning for the new tract "bad religion is bad" discussion.

she had to go home because they were going "out" tonight - of course, i asked where.

sosad

I found this interesting. My mom was over today - she tried to steer the conversation a bit but i didn't take the bait (thanks to this board I knew she was gunning for the new tract "Bad Religion is Bad" discussion. She had to go home because they were going "out" tonight - of course, I asked where. (dad is notvery social, so I was pleased for her)...she became very evasive but eventually I gathered that per their CO's recomendation there was an "invitation only" meeting for the big guys and there wives to attend at the kh. It sounded like a semi formal meeting to help both husbands and wives participate in meetings, take the lead more etc but she was very vauge. Her vaguness might have been that she didn't want to tell me he was a ms but it I still found it an interesting twist. Since when do they consider you an elder and elderess - or is this something that has always happened and I just never was aware?

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Do the dubs know WHY there delivering Kingdom News 37?

by truthseeker in

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i just got my copy of the sep km.

there's an article, about 6 paragraphs inside about the "false religions end is near" campaign.. i was surprised that the first paragraoh didn't even tell the dubs why they were doing this campaign.

they left the explanation to a couple of vague sentences in the last paragraph about how false religion's end is near.. it seems that the dubs don't know why they're doing this, only that they have to do it and place their 50 copies.. odd..

sosad

i remember always having to track tracts (haha) meaning the number placed during a campaign - the big question was, did you count how many you started with and then wait until the end of the day in service to see how many were left, or did you count each one as they were place...then (it was after '75 for sure) we were told that we didn't have to bother reporting how many were placed becasue "they were just panphlets - not mags)

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JW Urban legends

by William Penwell in

i was reading this on the urban legends web site.

i recall a post and some discussion earlier on this site about the john denver rumor.

the rumor of him at one of his concerts asking all jw's to leave.

sosad

i remember the one about the blue smurf doll that walked up the aisle or maybe it was out the door of a KH - smurfs were of course demonized - all that blue, and the wierd little hats....

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FS experiences that got you doubting

by greendawn in

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did things happen eg people told you things that got you doubting about the wts while you were on the field service?

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i recall a girl i had never met before who was crying (after we talked for a while) for being shunned by another local congo, and i thought that it was too cruel to shun people and something was not right with the jws.

sosad

two things stick in my mind- one of the last times I was out in service a young teen whose father was not a JW said she was so happy because she now realized via another witness that if her dad was destroyed at the big A it wouldn't bother her becasue J wouldn't allow her to remember him. her dad was a very nice man - it sounded horrible and she really was full of glee (and now no longer a jw if i have heard correctly)

another ex-jw referred to a Hospice for families of terminally ill children as the "house that greed built" and I was the only one in the vehicle that did not start shaking their heads and agreeing with her...

way to many sick memories of warped people

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Alone With the Opposite Sex

by purplesofa in

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over the last few months i have been training three different men for backup position of my job.. we are alone in my car all day.. as a jw, i remember one time, needing to go to another congo in a different town to work on a part at an assembly.

i was to ride with the brother doing the part.

he was probably at least 30+ years older than me.

sosad

the cong i grew up in read "sex" into everything- they were sick really and truly. one sis wouldn't sit in the front seat of the car with her brother-in-law- with others in the car. the teens were constantly being regarded as sex fiends- pre teens were counselled for walking in a sexy way- no swimming in a pool with the brothers if you were a girl 11 and up - it might "tempt" them.

they raised more sex curious kids than they would have imagined...no innocence was allowed- everyone had to know what might happen if you were alone with an evil person of the opposite sex....oh, but that's not all my best friend and I were accused of being "way too close"- there are some that still believe we not just having sleep overs to talk about the boys...

the now adults that left agree they had no idea how normal friendships were supposed to be for years. how sad

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Disfellowshipping the obese?

by dido in

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has anyone posted this, or has anyone heard that you can now be d/f for being obese?

not that i am, (slightly overweight but arent most people?

) but am curious to find out if it is true.

sosad

Hi hadenuf - there was a thread on eating disorders that was referenced on this thread. it was re: a new article about relying on the organization for help. The original thread was about Prayer - can it help eating disorders etc

I reiterate - there are many problems that the org will df/counsel/sit in judgment on. There is stupidity that someone like me with an eating disorder that was not readily apparent was threatened with a judicial committee and removed from all privl in the cong when the elders trying to help me were about 100 lbs overweight - very apparently. This thread is about the judgment and the ludicrousness of dfing for this and not for that.