Nice post. thanks.
When the matter is not clear in Scripture, why should we try and play God ? We do so poorly at it. Why not let Him be the Judge of people ?"
I especially like this part. That is right on.
"thus you nullify the word of god for the sake of your tradition.......their teachings are but rules made by man- matthew 15-;6,9- new international version.. in the book crisis of conscience, ray franz explained his viewpoints on matters to the rest of the governing body members.
he did not believe it was up to them (the governing body) to decide what the brothers and sisters did.
rather, he beleived that god is the one who "lets" them do certain things, either because his word approves it or because it is silent on the matter, and that god alone prohibits, when his world clearly condemns the action, either explicity or by clear principle.
Nice post. thanks.
When the matter is not clear in Scripture, why should we try and play God ? We do so poorly at it. Why not let Him be the Judge of people ?"
I especially like this part. That is right on.
this is something that just popped in my mind suddenly.. but i was thinking about over the years the many comments of jws about loved ones.
for instance, one sister was speaking of her disgust with her children not accepting the "truth".
she gladly tells anyone of what she told them; that if they don't accept it before armageddon that it's too bad.
"I can't stand to see these parents spending time with their children that left Jehovah. They're going to be gone when Armageddon comes so why bother with them anyway?"
My experience is that its has been easier for someone to make these comments when it hasn't happened to them personally. I believe it really deeply hurts those who have to shun a dear loved one. Some do it because its easier to just forget than it is to talk to them and keep reminding themselves of the situation. Some people keep talking to them sometimes because they can't bare to shun them totally.
It really is horrible what the organization does to people. There is "no natural affection." They are all brainwashed to not show any. I think a lot of them are good people at heart... some not so good ....
Renee
The youngest picture I have on hand (the others are on my computer at home)
I am on the left
And since I don't have kids -- Here's my cat as a kitten:
my girlfriend that i brag to everyone about, and treat like a queen, is leaving me.
i actually got df'd over her, and have been with her for over 5 months.
we were so close, i just totally never, ever saw this coming.
Did she say why?
That really sucks. I can't imagine what you are thinking right now. I hope things work out for the best and you get to feeling better very soon!!
when someone new gets baptized do they the information to the tower?
and when someone becomes one of thew regular pioneers do they already know ur baptism date at the tower?
how does it work?
I have no idea. I wonder if they lost some of the cards or they got burned in a house fire or something.
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it is fair to say that many of us on this board rid ourselves of the watchtower societys.
propaganda publications.
I have pictures from the convention and pictures of family/friends from the borg. An album full. I have my NWT, Revelation book, live forever book, song book and the last Sunday Watchtower and kingdom ministry from when I suddenly left. I also have some notebooks from the convention with my notes in them. It reminds me of the mindset I was in at the time. Everytime I have that feeling that I miss it all, I read the notes and they make me barf and I change my mind.
I clearly remember the day I through out my books from the society. I had like two big garbage cans and I threw out an entire large bookshelf full of the stuff. It was the strangest feeling. You spend all of your life thinking that you should treasure them and one day you find yourself tossing it all out to the road. I remember having 2 or 3 copies of some of the books and brochures that I had for the door to door work. It was strange throwing away brand new books. A good strange though.
i am not proud of that, for i know the pain i caused someone as i look back.. i turned in 4 people for 'gross sins' over my tenure as a jw.
i wish i could take it back now.
were these people guilty of 'sin' as defined by the wts?
I turned my best friend in in 8th grade for kissing a boy. She never talked to me after that and I really regret it now. I thought I was helping her at the time. I would love to talk to her now.
damn it, i thought yesterday was the end.... i'll have to put up with you apostates a little while longer.
http://www.yisraylhawkins.com/ What Is The House of Yahweh Doing At This Time That All Who Survive The Great Tribulation Will Be Doing? The religions of the world just can’t understand that we are in the Last Days of the great tribulation spoken of by the prophets of old, under inspiration of Yahweh. The most obvious Prophecy being fulfilled at this time is the Prophecy of the nuclear baby, yet all religions of and by the people can’t understand this Prophecy. This Prophecy started September 12, 2006 and will end June 12, 2007 with a third part of man killed over a fourth part of the earth in and around the great River Euphrates. This prophesied event will end with nuclear war. There will be many birth pains throughout this nine month period
laying on the beach in a bathing suit in sunny Florida in Late Sept/Early October with my honey nearby.
occasionally at work they give us a required survey to fill out on the computer.
i was thinking that we need one of those here, in this format.. here is the first question.
answer if you like and add more questions in the same format;.
Hug and Kiss them repeatedly for keen observation [particularly if they are gorgeous]