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did anyone have to get dunked twice at their baptism because you still had your big toe sticking out of the water ????.
ive seen this happen a couple of times.
Being that the JWs can't think I understand why they didn't think of this but ....
I was just baptised earlier this year at a Baptist church. They submersed me by having me squat in the water and then standing back up again. It was much easier than doing a back bend. I just thought I would add that bit of info in this discussion.
here's one: you can't give blood but you can take a blood fraction (which someone else has to give).
You can drink as long as its in moderation and you don't get drunk.
You can't fondle and caress each other becaue it could lead to sex.
short story:.
never had a real religious formation until i met the witness in my teenage years.. not everything has been bad but most of my friends there and exwife have been cheaters, liars and hypocrites.... i called it quits this year as i could no longer swallow their truth.
i remarried a supposedly "christian" 23 yr old woman that has shown me how bad things are 'out here'.... regarding her i have a question... those of you that continue to uphold bible's principles and love for our dear creator please advise on the following situation:.
I think mouthy is right. Forget about the WT but pray about it. This depends on if you life would be better with or without her. Imagine your life both ways and decide what would make you happier. You have plenty of grounds for a divorce. Don't worry about that. If you leave her just remember that when you meet someone else, don't rust into things next time.
6 months ago i was d'fd and i am right now confused as to what i want to do cuse i can put my letter in for reinstatement now but i just dont know if that would be the best desicion for me.
one side of me says go back to the jw org and do all that i can in the org so that i can make it to the paradise.
but then one side says just do what u want to do til u die.
Are you guys acctually happy living your lives with no hope really knowing that your going to die in like 50 years or so.
But I still have hope. I belive that my faith in Jesus Christ will give me a life in heaven after this one is over.
Instead of deciding that either you are going to live in a paradise or you are going to die, why don't you look into the idea that the WT might be COMPLETELY wrong? I was at the same place you were a while back and I talked to a lady who helped me to learn that God loved me and was forgiving. She told me that eternal life is a FREE gift and we couldn't earn or diserve it. What Jesus really did was to pay the penalty for our sins. He did not die to balance some scales. God knew that we were so imperfect that we could never measure up to his righteous standards so he sent us a Savior. Jesus paid that penalty so we wouldn't have to. Now we are good to please God and love him but it doesn't seperate us from his love when we mess up. We do 'works' as a thank-you to him for providing a way to heaven. Works nor being good can get you there. Its works and being good that we do to thank God for what he has done for us.
I'm telling you -- the WT is not just wrong on some false dates, the UN thing, and the lack of love that they have. They also have their theology screwed up. (for example: The great crowd is said to be in heaven 4 times -- see Rev 19:1 for starters).
PM me if you need to.
Renee
i'm worried because i sent a christmas card plus had a gift sent by ups over the internet about 7 days ago and haven't heard anything.
i would feel really feel bad if my person didin't receive their gift or card.
so i think we need to have an official post place.
Sorry -- double post.
i'm worried because i sent a christmas card plus had a gift sent by ups over the internet about 7 days ago and haven't heard anything.
i would feel really feel bad if my person didin't receive their gift or card.
so i think we need to have an official post place.
I got to open my gift today! Thank you so much. I don't know who I am thanking but I loved it! I like candles and the blanket is SOOO soft! And so Christmasy! Its so nice to have more Christmas stuff since I am just getting started collecting. Thank you so much .... SECRET Santa :)
in spite of the fact that i consider myself christian now, post exit of the watchtower religion, i have not attended a single religious event or sermon inside a church since i was 5 years old [1960].
today, we attended the christmas play for my 5 year old g-daughter at the church where she attends pre-school.
i was absolutely ecstatic with the program.
I am so happy! That is a big step. It was a huge part in my personal recovery process. I hope you enjoy it and are as pleasantly surprised as I was my first time.
Renee
check this out (hope you have a strong stomach .
from the ex:.
also, how are the kids handleing the holiday thing....for real....and do you really feel that is what you believe in, it just worries me......i havent said anything cuz its your choice, it is just that i wish you would come back.....move to omaha, and get into a diff congre, they would embrace you, they really would, .........heck, they embraced me after all the crap i did and fell and got back up.......i do see the good in you........ .
This should be your reply:
Hey EX:
I wasn't sure that I should even write back to you. I know that if I come across as negative or defensive in any way, you'll jump all over that like a good little brainwashed JW does. I can hear the script already. This whole thing makes me just mad... who are you to judge the "good" in me. Hell, *I* know I'm "good", but it took getting out of the judgemental JW to find it. No way am I uprooting my family and my nest and leaving an awesome job to go back to some freaking cult. I will NEVER go into those bonds again -- my mind and my heart, my beliefs and feelings have been freed. There is no going back. Before I end this, I should tell you about the kids.
We are all doing absolutely wonderfully. Really. The kids have embraced Christmas as though they've done it forever. I'm pretty sure they're doing ok with it all as I've overheard them talking among themselves about "what are we going to get mom? Grandma? etc...". They ask if they can "turn on the pretties" and remark at how "festive" the table etc looks. Stuff they think of on their own, without me pushing them. Actually I've not pushed anything at all... and have told them now and then throughout this year that any time they want to go to a meeting, to just let me know and I'd take them. So they've had choices and options, and have always chosen the non-JW. The girls have started Methodist youth group. My oldest is considering taking the Confirmation class. If it's Methodist, fine. If they want to go to JW, fine. So that's that.
merfi
does anyone have any suggestions?.
my sister has not spoken to me in almost two years.
she thinks i am an apostate for knowing the watchtower joined the un.
It all depends on if you have faith in anything or not. The best thing is to attact their crazy doctrine but this only works if you have faith in Jesus now.
when i stopped going to meetings, i faded away slowly.
we always tend to think that we are the ones who faded away and that the jw's in general wanted us to stay.. but if you think about it, the elders, ms, and every good jw who still attend meetings, are also the ones fading.
the only difference is that they are fading the people who left.
It wasn't easy for me to fade. I was a 5th generation JW and every family member (half of the congregation) noticed when I wasn't there and would call the next day asking what happened.
And then too ... I have that big mouth problem.
