Ah yes, the Black Art of Propaganda, and I present to You(Know) the MASTERS of the art:
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hardly anyone has an honest opinion about anything of importance that wasnt craftily pre-packaged and handed to them by someone else whose job it is to craft public opinion.
the intention of the media is to present the illusion of impartially informing, all the while pandering to prejudice and ignorance in order to persuade to a particular point of view.
datelines presentation of the watchtowers child abuse issue was a case study in the black art of media propaganda.. from the very beginning of the presentation dateline was intent on giving the public a negative impression of jehovahs witnesses by portraying us all as oddball crackpots whose religion revolves around the doctrine that we dont celebrate birthdays and that all non-believers are possessed by the devil and that we want them all to die.
Ah yes, the Black Art of Propaganda, and I present to You(Know) the MASTERS of the art:
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they won't hear about it from you, and not by me.. by who?.
the angry person opening the door during "field service".
i think the "do not call" list is about to get a tad longer.. another problem, associated with the issue of victims within the organization, is that the public is now in jeopardy of contact with unreported pedophiles.. whether the jehovah witnesses like it or not, the box that they live in still resides in within our communities.
They won't hear about it from you, and not by me.
By who?
The angry person opening the door during "field service". I think the "do not call" list is about to get a tad longer.
Another problem, associated with the issue of victims within the organization, is that the public is now in jeopardy of contact with unreported pedophiles.
Whether the Jehovah Witnesses like it or not, the box that they live in still resides in within our communities. They come upon our property uninvited to "spread the good news". I for one don't ask for them to come to my door, and pretty much I can assume most others don't ask them to come to their doors also. So therefore, they have interaction with the community outside of their own.
Jehovah Witnesses who support their arguments against the pedophilia issues with the "not to go against Jehovah's arrangement" reasoning, are about to get a dose of reality. See, the local community doesn't share the same idea as Jehovah Witnesses when it comes to the issue of pedophilia. If there is a pedophile at the door, it's the local communities RIGHT to know who this uninvited person on your private property is...regardless.
Jehovah Witnesses who support the "not to go against Jehovah's arrangement" therefore, in my eyes, also accept the accountability and responsibility.
I say, if you have family members in the organization and want them out...that is YOUR family and YOU must do what is needed. For the rest of the 6 million, don't worry about them. Don't worry about whether or not they flee the Witchpower. A more reasonable approach is to make sure that the the 6 million doesn't reach 6 million and 1.
Print of up flyers! Make signs! Get a protest permit and arrange to stand on a street corner from up the local Kingdom Hall on meetings nights. Tell the PUBLIC, what the "truth" about Jehovah Witnesses is!
They are willing to hide pedophiles from the law and community, when it's our RIGHT to protect OUR family and children!
If the Jehovah Witnesses are willing to protect their "own", do we the public not also have the RIGHT to protect ourselves? They have gone beyond proof to show that they turn a deaf ear to the rights of victims within their own society, and with their printed material, have gone beyond proof to show that they don't give a DAMN about the local community and it's children. Jehovah Witnesses can "wait on Jehovah" all they want, the community on the other hand, DOES NOT.
Inform the PUBLIC! Reason with John/Jane Doe that every Watchtower and Awake they get is from an organization that supports and condones unjust action upon pedophilia victims. Reason with them that by taking such publications, that they are supporting an atrocity.
Maybe after a few months and profits are down, the governing body will start realizing that there's a "new light" on the situation, and begin to "re-arrange Jehovah's arrangement".
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.. http://www.washtimes.com/national/20020527-78351630.htm.
during a press conference in france.
"i wonder why it is you think there are such strong sentiments in europe against you and against this administration?
Bboy said:
someone has a low opinion of a leader who keeps a 'score card' of terrorists who he can put an X over as they are killed and mocks reporters on national television instead of answering valid questionsand said:
I assume you base your high standards of intelligence on your own opinions on social/political/philosophical matters. Anyone who falls short of your standards of judgment is obviously less educated, or so you infer.
Okay, I was sugar coating my post because I don't harbor any ill feelings against you. My goal was to encourage you to pursue a path that will sharpen your opinion and thought. That the path will take you beyond remedial arguments.
So now, I will deliver it between the eyes:
The topic post is taking a shot at the way Bush speaks. This is a "grade school" approach. "Hee Hee, Bush is talking silly, Hee Hee".
As to your response to Farkel with:
If the critsisizm of your favirote president since the slave-owning thomas jefferson gets to you, please attack the argument not the arguer.Okay, if this statement isn't self evident in it self with my argument, please prove me wrong.
If you were trying to comprehend my message, you would of got the point that I was encouraging you to seek an avenue to aid you in your opinion. I kept the issue presented in this topic out of my first post. You have a voice on what you feel is an important issue. If you wan't to keep it on a "playground" level, that's up to you. But hey, it's your world and I'm just living in it. Take it the way you want.
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.. http://www.washtimes.com/national/20020527-78351630.htm.
during a press conference in france.
"i wonder why it is you think there are such strong sentiments in europe against you and against this administration?
Yerusalyim
Military service is another option to gain an excellent education, and being exposed to diverse people and ideas. The military does have a much more structured atomsphere, but I have to give the U.S. military credit, the options available in the education realm are priceless.
To everyone else, the U.S. military isn't about waking up at 0500 hours and running 15 miles a day. The U.S. military does encourage and provide educational oportunities for those who want it. The U.S. military doesn't want a bunch of mindless soldiers running around on the battlefield. The similarities between going to college and getting a college education thru the military are not all that different when you look at it from a certain perspective. In life, it's up to the individual to excel. Some people are comfortable working with McDonalds for the rest of their life, others are comfortable with being a buck PVT. Nothing wrong with that. But what ever course one chooses, it's up to the individual and her/his ambition to reach the outcome they want to pursue. It's up to what you desire. :)
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.. http://www.washtimes.com/national/20020527-78351630.htm.
during a press conference in france.
"i wonder why it is you think there are such strong sentiments in europe against you and against this administration?
It's the neo-public school system of the U.S.A. I'm Libertarian with leanings to the "left". Yet I am not ignorant to the fact that the U.S. public school system (K-12) is no longer for public education for children. The U.S. public school system is now the playground for political agendas and special interest groups. Both left and right have their hands in the arena. They wan't to "capitolize" on what information is being fed to the children, to suit each parties individual agenda(Future voters, and dumbing down). Heck, even corporations are getting in to the mix to ensure that their commercial enterprise remains "healthy and prosperous" with the future consumers of the U.S.
Bboyenko is within the generation that comes out from such a school system. This generation will have a challenge when it comes to objectivity and fact. This generation also judges history using present day Political Correct morals (aka..REVISIONISTS), which is provided by special interest agendas in the public school system.
Bboyenko, the reason I'm posting this is;
I hope you are and/or considering in putting an effort to pursue some form of education (College) beyond highschool. This will (hopefully) expose your mind to diverse ideas within a realm of diverse people. This will (hopefully) lead you to sharpening your own mind and not let others sharpen it for you.
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and they don't want me "exposing" myself..... come to think of it, neither would the board.. .
sooooo, here i am.
errrr...2 years ago.. so use your imagination:.
Dutchie (and all):
Here is a direct heritage makeup of myself:
Mom - 1/2 Austrian 1/2 Hungarian
Dad - 1/4 African American - 1/4 Caucasion - 1/2 Native American
My sisters inherited my father's features.
I inherited my mother's features. I'm the "biological oddity" in the family.
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g'day cyber junkets.. now this personality test is good, very good.. i would be very interested to see the results from most posters.. i came up a type 5, the investigator.
so accurate.. i can see simon as type 9, englishman as the definative 7, alan .
fur-burger is a natural 8 ( with a definite twist of 6 ), princess is a 4 through and through and naeblis, well....he thinks he is a 3 but he is really a hardcore 5.. well was i close ???.
Type 1: 5
Type 2: 3
Type 3: 4
Type 4: 3
Type 5: 5
Type 6: 1
Type 7: 3
Type 8: 6
Type 9: 6
Based entirely on highest score, you appear to have Type 8 personality characteristics
Type Eight
The Challenger
The powerful, aggressive type. Eights are self-confident, strong, and assertive. Protective, resourceful, straight-talking, and decisive, but can also be ego-centric and domineering. Eights feel they must control their environment, especially people, sometimes becoming confrontational and intimidating. Eights typically have problems with their tempers and with allowing themselves to be vulnerable. At their Best: self-mastering, they use their strength to improve others' lives, becoming heroic, magnanimous, and inspiring.
Do I get a cookie now? What!?! No cookie!?! DAMN IT! I wan't a cookie! This message board should have cookies in them! Why do I deserve a cookie? Because I'm the BEST DAMN IT! And dont try to take my cookie away from me, or I'll punch someone in the nose! Have I told you all that I can lift about 500 lbs. of cookies? With one arm? I decide who gets the cookies around here anyway!
oh...wait...personality is changing from mutant personality rays...
::!!!WHAMO!!!::
I hear a cookie in trouble, this is job for Cookie Man! Remember people, cookies can often improve your life! Reach for the cookie! Take a bite out of it! Ask not what a cookie can do for you, but what you can do for a cookie! A cookie at last, a cookie at last, thank God almighty, a cookie at last!
Ummmm....yah.
D8TA
this is addressed to the jw lurkers.....according to my brother, who is a devout jw, no "good" witness would be found on this site....but since he's a jw, we'll assume he's naive....... dear jehovah's witness:.
my family, whom i love, is comprised of jehovah's witnesses.
i was never baptised, as anything, but attended meetings for years, until i turned eighteen.
FROM THE ABOVE LINK:
"Do you shun former members?
Those who simply cease to be involved in the faith are not shunned. In compliance with the Scriptures, however, members can be expelled for serious unchristian conduct, such as stealing, drunkenness, or adultery, if they do not repent and cease such actions. Disfellowshipping DOES NOT SEVER family ties. Disfellowshipped members may continue to attend religious services, and if they wish, they may receive pastoral visits. They are always welcome to return to the faith.—1 Corinthians 5:11-13."
Disfellowshipping DOES NOT SEVER family ties.Semantics? Or a lie?
I say: If there was ever a lie in the history of print on page (hell, chizel on stone even!), this one takes the cake.
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hi there,im currently having the best godamn sex of my life,im afraid to admit that i am seriously perverse and into just about everything you can be!
problem is, im running out of new things to try!
anybody know any weird and wonderful things that i may not have done?
let me know which copy of the Awake came up with sexual ideas and Ill check it out!
I'll let you know when the copy comes out...can you wait for an eternity?
Besides, the best advice the WT & Awake could give on sex is:
1) Both husband and wife MUST lay flat on the bed, at least three feet apart.(Psalms 24:6-8)
2) Husband must roll on top of wife..but by MISTAKE!(Luke 2:1-5,8)
3) The couple should now lay motionless.(Revelation 6:9-12)
4) Now the couple should pray for an earthquake.(Ezekiel 2:6-10)
5) Congratulations, you have now had sex in accordance to the bible as per the advice of Jehovah's earthly organization.(Exodus the entire book)
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Question A) How many feet is required by Jehovah, for the couple laying in the bed?
Question B) According to Eziekiel, how do christian witnesses benifit from the earthquake?
Question C) How can many people benifit from the book of Exodus, when they are members of the Christian Witnesses of Jehovah?
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and they don't want me "exposing" myself..... come to think of it, neither would the board.. .
sooooo, here i am.
errrr...2 years ago.. so use your imagination:.
Pope-LOL
Naw, not that extreme!
I do have a tattoo, on my right shoulder. Yellow Lightning bolt thru a red circle ala The Flash.
D8TA