The issue with Saddam is no different. Given enough time, he WILL attack us, just like he attacked his own Kurdish people, Kuwait, Iran, Israel and tried to attack Saudi Arabia. Bush is spot-on in taking the initiative to stop him before he starts. Your children will be grateful he did this, and someday you will realize the world is not as pretty as you hope it is. Many people are just barbarians, and all the feel-good thinkers in the world cannot change this fact.
Yes, the issue with Saddam is different.
This isn't the innocence of the 1930's anymore Farkel. The U.S. has been broke down politically, socially, and economically and built up, only to be broke down and built up again! Damn it, this is basic. The U.S. is a lot different then that of the U.S. 60 some odd years ago. It's not as simple as it once was. Even THEN it wasn't simple.
We have to factor in all the; push and shove, pollitical corruption, corporate-American interest, oil, trade, arms dealing, domestic intelligence agency power shifts, domestic and international agency scandal, propaganda from all sides, back alley political deals, sanctions, embargos, sovreignty rights of nations, humanitarian rights, military interests, the stock market, foreign interest of all kinds, diverse cultural viewpoints, * takes breath *, U.N. involvement, diverse religous involvement, policy of previous adminstrations, etc., etc., etc.! And this isn't just from a U.S. vs. Iraq/Korea point of view either, we have to factor in EVERY nation to this global community as to this small list.
Not to mention, what has 9-11 brought the U.S. so far and what is there still to come? So far I see: The Patriot Act and the Dept. of Homeland Defense being the greatest travisty as to what the U.S. stands for, and for what? We don't even have Osama Bin Laden! The only thing that is no different from the 1930's is that...again...we the people on this planet don't know what the hell is really going on!
The web of geopolitics is so big now, there is no one person who can unravel it. It's huge! And those who pull the strings...well hell...THEY don't even know what is going to happen. You...Me...Them...nobody. We can't just start throwing "well, just like WW2 we gotta" arguments out there. You can learn from history, yes, but as to cause of action of future events...who can really say? Who really knows?
The only thing we have to work with, is what we got so far. We can throw "what-ifs" out there all we want. You, me, them.
If we play the "what if game" well...Here's a few legitimate "what ifs":
What if taking Saddam Hussien out of power causes other mid-east countries to say, "Well holy crap, we aint gonna let the U.S. do that to us!"...wonderful, now we have an entire region ready to attack the U.S.
What if taking Saddamn Hussien out of power gives the world something worse, a whole new regime that is built upon blowing the entire world to hell because Allah or Jesus or Willy Willy Woo - God of Leather Pants wants them too?
What if China sees this whole Korean conflict as there way to attack the U.S.? I don't know about you, but they have a pretty strong military, and fending them of U.S. shores won't be like Japan.
Weapons...hell, now EVERYONE has "the bomb". Jeez, who cares about going in to situations cautiously, lets just start rolling U.S. policy all over the world through military might...throw caution to the wind. What's a few hundred nukes landing in peoples neighborhood, eh?
That's the price of Capitlism dear Farkel...THAT is the price. It's no longer about "Freedom" or "Liberty" in which your father respectfully fought for. Those days are over, they are gone. What do we have now? Celebrities, Corporations, Politicians and Special Interest groups enjoying the best JUSTICE money can buy, while the common U.S. citizen (and other people of the world) are loosing their individual rights, liberties, and freedoms.
And MARK MY WORDS: The Patriot Act and Dept. of Homeland Defense is the beginning of the end to the America you (Farkel) are talking about. Is it worth fighting for? Is it worth fighting for the rich and corporate interests of this world? Every dirty exploitation of decent folk in the world, that comes out of it? Is this the "best" we as humans can do? Is this the "best" there is to offer? United Socialists and Corporate Interests of America.
It's time to to tear down and rebuild again, if you are wanting the "old" U.S. back. And perhaps, just perhaps, people that are rocking the boat are the ones who are keeping that "American Dream" alive. They aren't attacking America, they are attacking as to what America has become. A corrupt nation that is exploiting the rest of the global community and pushing it's point of view on the rest of the world. Not the point of view of Democracy, hell no, that's to be "earned" by those nations who seek it. No, I'm talking about the point of view that caters to the power hungry politicians and corporations in which pull the strings in the world. The U.S. is the only super power in the world...and what is that saying? Absolute power?
Ah hell, what does it matter, to me...to me it's just another chapter in human history of survival of the fittest. Another example of King of the Hill. Shit...with all of what "little" I've accumlated in my small mind so far in 31 years of my life, just leads me down Apathy Lane. Time to hit the beach and watch the sunrise, for the way the world is going today...there just might not be one tomorrow.
Edited by - D8TA on 15 January 2003 2:58:26
