i know many on here have lost faith in the bible , is it possible that is because ones do not have the right perspective regarding it .
we have usually been taught by bad teachers , or ignorant .
i believe if we take an honest look at the bible , we will see that it gives us the best answers to crucial matters , it gives us some amount of bearings ( understanding ) , which without having such knowledge we would all be more like walking zombies in amanner of speaking , we would be lacking hope in something better , for surely something better is to come , how can we be sure , .
This is where the bible got lost along the way... and what it should be to be a "good person".
1. Reason, Not Superstition
2. Ethics, Not Dogma
3. Respect, Not Worship
4. Courage, Not Fear
5. Fact, Not Myth
6. Morality, Not Religion
7. Clarity, Not Delusion
8. Good, Not God
9. Skeptic, Not Cynic
10. Rationality, Not Ideology
i know many on here have lost faith in the bible , is it possible that is because ones do not have the right perspective regarding it .
we have usually been taught by bad teachers , or ignorant .
i believe if we take an honest look at the bible , we will see that it gives us the best answers to crucial matters , it gives us some amount of bearings ( understanding ) , which without having such knowledge we would all be more like walking zombies in amanner of speaking , we would be lacking hope in something better , for surely something better is to come , how can we be sure , .
My friend, most of the "good things" in the bible were written by the Egyptians long before whomever wrote the bible. Fact.
Humans are an every evolving group, we are strong social creatures, we are stronger when we have stronger society, logic tells us that not murdering, not stealing and so forth creates a stronger more successful society, even in untouched cultures who have never heard of the bible and follow the same basic moral principles.
Greek myths and other "foundation myths contain accounts that use sometimes real places, and moral stories. Does that make them true? There are volumes of research on where the bible has actually come from, where its main themes were plagiarized from etc. I ask you spend some serious unbiased research time on these then consider your question again.
The bible and religion were part of our evolution and imagination, but what they are today is an answer to questions no one should be asking
Peace and love FMF
for only the second time in internet history, a video recording of a secret jehovah's witness apostasy trial has been published online on the jwstruggle youtube channel.
follow isaac's story here:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se9rh6qux0o&feature=youtu.be.
Such double standards. Broadcast videos and convention propaganda about the importance of 100 years of the kingdom, then downplay the witness obsession with dates in a JC.
What kills me too is the pedophellia thing. "its imperfect men"... "it's imperfect men" When a problem is SOOOO widespread and problematic to be called "systemic" within an organization/system/group, well there is something else wrong. Its not just "imperfect men" any more.
They use the trap "do you believe in Jehovah"? When i hear that (on here for from my own family etc), I envision someone hiding behind a tree with strong attached to a stick holding up a box, waiting for you to walk in, I really do appreciate the way Isaac answered, good for him. It's incredible how much of this organization runs on little rules, policing, dogma and doctrine, then this guy gets in the room for his JC and its "DO YOU BELIEVE IN JEHOVAH"? They always try to reason (as the elders did with me) just like him, forget the dates, forget org, forget this and that... yea right! that stuff is crammed down our throat and used as a noose around our neck, then when you need to keep someone from bailing all of the sudden thats not whats important. horse shit!
so, here's a bit of a different point of view.
while most of us will agree that our time within the jw cult was rather terrible, however, i'd like to look at another aspect.
did anything good come out of being in a cult and then waking up from it?.
oh man!.
the april broadcast is so manipulative when it speaks about enduring.
the very premise makes witnesses feel burdened with a martyrdom and heavy hearted complex!
Our special talk was more of the same, out of a 30 minute talk 25 minutes were bitching about how awful life is, I kid you not. Even the speaker was finally like well lets talk now about something positive... then he kept going about depressing stuff...
researchers say todays lord almighty shares many traits in common with the chimp deity, including color vision and omniscience.. .
berkeley, cachallenging long-held views on the origins of divinity, biologists at the university of california, berkeley, presented findings thursday that confirm god, the almighty creator of the universe, evolved from an ancient chimpanzee deity.. the recently discovered sacred ancestor, a divine chimp species scientists have named pan sanctorum, reportedly gave rise over millions of years to the lord our god, maker of heaven and earth.. although perhaps not obvious at first glance, there are actually overwhelming similarities between the supreme being of today and this early primate deity who preceded him, said dr. richard kamen, a leading biologist who also heads berkeleys paleotheology department.
the holy chimp moved around on all fours, but its descendants eventually began walking upright to expend less energy while foraging across the infinite reaches of the universe.
oh man!.
the april broadcast is so manipulative when it speaks about enduring.
the very premise makes witnesses feel burdened with a martyrdom and heavy hearted complex!
this makes me fume while i sit listening to this at the sunday beeting.... "hence, an elder who is tenderly compassionate does not try to control the sheep, making rules or using guilt to pressure them to do more when their circumstances do not permit them to.-w15 2/15 pp.
5-9. now this sentence makes the elders sound like they should not control, use guilt to pressure etc... but then it has a qualifying statement no one seems to hear.
when their circumstances do no permit them to.
this makes me fume while i sit listening to this at the sunday beeting.... "hence, an elder who is tenderly compassionate does not try to control the sheep, making rules or using guilt to pressure them to do more when their circumstances do not permit them to.-w15 2/15 pp.
5-9. now this sentence makes the elders sound like they should not control, use guilt to pressure etc... but then it has a qualifying statement no one seems to hear.
when their circumstances do no permit them to.
This makes me fume while I sit listening to this at the sunday beeting...
"Hence, an elder who is tenderly compassionate does not try to control the sheep, making rules or using guilt to pressure them to do more when their circumstances do not permit them to.-w15 2/15 pp. 5-9
Now this sentence makes the elders sound like they should not control, use guilt to pressure etc... but then it has a qualifying statement no one seems to hear. WHEN THEIR CIRCUMSTANCES DO NO PERMIT THEM TO. That means they CAN try to control and pressure with guilt anyone who they feel should do more AND has (in their opinion) the circumstances. I hate this kind of stuff. When you read the article on JW.org about "Do Jehovah's Witnesses Shun?" To an outside it sounds like the witnesses are so loving and balanced, but it is loaded with this type of witness legalistic code language.
Who can't see this as obvious deception? Everyone commenting gobbles it up as so loving and no one mentions the qualifying part... CULT
so by now most of us have heard about (or watched) the april broadcast and the ridiculous "experience" of the guy that asked god to fix his construction leak before he believed in him..... so, what would you like to "pray that god fixes" in your life??.
humorous or serious replies welcome!
(although sarcastic, cynical and funny replies preferred hehe).
