Sorry to hear that closer. I never thought I'd see my wife back off like she has. She had to honestly see the negative toll the religion took on me and one day things changed. I know for some it happens, for some it doesn't. But if you aren't happy in your life change can be a good thing. No one should hold on to a toxic situation forever. Hope you find some solutions.
freemindfade
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Every Know Anyone Too "Weak" To Wake Up?
by freemindfade ina jw that is probably irregular, they don't really attend meetings, they are not up on anything going on, they may even seem like they are faded but they are not, they are just slackers.
a jw that is impervious to the f.o.g.
(ok maybe it bums them, but they are too lazy and self serving to do otherwise).
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Urging More Lurkers To Sign Up
by freemindfade ini have seen a lot of new posters intro stories on here, also updates from those who have been around for a while.
i just want to take 1 post to beg those reading to speak up.
it was a big turning point for me and one of the best decisions i made.
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freemindfade
I have seen a lot of new posters intro stories on here, also updates from those who have been around for a while.
I just want to take 1 post to beg those reading to speak up. It was a big turning point for me and one of the best decisions I made. One of the worst things about coming to terms with this organization is facing it alone! You don't have to. So please I want to hear some more stories
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10 years in prison and 2,000 lashes for saying he was an Atheist
by fulltimestudent inthe tide of disbelief is rising and only fools think they can stop it.
but some are too stupid to understand that fact, as this news story from saudi arabia demonstrates:.
american ally saudi arabia is the perpetrator of this crime against humanity.
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freemindfade
I thought only Jehovah's Witnesses were persecuted for their beliefs
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Every Know Anyone Too "Weak" To Wake Up?
by freemindfade ina jw that is probably irregular, they don't really attend meetings, they are not up on anything going on, they may even seem like they are faded but they are not, they are just slackers.
a jw that is impervious to the f.o.g.
(ok maybe it bums them, but they are too lazy and self serving to do otherwise).
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freemindfade
Ucantnome
I think you are still thinking with the JW glossary of terms. Many things theysay imply one thing, mean another. Many terms have been hijacked by the religion.
"Truth" doesn't mean truth. It means What you have to believe according to a religion
Being "good" means nothing more than obedient.
"Unconditional love"...
many people do not fully understand what these things really mean until they get out.
I stand by my claim that the root cause behind most JW actions is fear!
"I go door to door because I love mankind so much!"... next breath, "they didn't listen to me, what jerks, I'll take their house after Armageddon". and at the meeting "if you don't go out and knock on doors YOUR BLOOD GUILTY". Stop going out in service for a while..."is everything ok, we haven't seen you out in a while" how embarrassing and disingenuous of an elder who has never spoke to me and barely knows my name to falsify concern because of numbers on a little piece of paper that is going to get him chewed out by the CO.
This religion, as with most, is a social technology designed to control through fear. There are people with good intentions who do good things, in my experience the majority of JW good deeds were done for "theocratic reasons." seldom just to be a decent human. I have seen profoundly more unconditional love and genuine human kindness outside the walls of a kingdom hall. It make come in smaller doses but it is far more real.
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Every Know Anyone Too "Weak" To Wake Up?
by freemindfade ina jw that is probably irregular, they don't really attend meetings, they are not up on anything going on, they may even seem like they are faded but they are not, they are just slackers.
a jw that is impervious to the f.o.g.
(ok maybe it bums them, but they are too lazy and self serving to do otherwise).
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freemindfade
yes but they mean well
We all did, and that has its limitation too. Shunning your fellowman out of fear fabricated by a man made publishing company has nothing to do with good intentions. It has to do with fear. There are great individuals in the organization just like there are outside of it. But their good stops at the point they abandon true "good" out of fear of punishment or loss of promised reward.
loyalty = paradise for the individual. That good intention is selfish and exploited by the likes of ISIS
Either my flair for subtlety is severely lacking or my wife is exceptionally sensitive (probably both) because this doesn't work either. Sometimes I'll be innocently trying to talk to her about something I find interesting and it just so happens to go counter to JW doctrine (sometimes not even then, but it touches on a topic that she thinks might go against JW doctrine) and she'll flat out leave the room and not talk to me for a couple hours. But that's getting a bit far off topic, I think...
Well don't give up, I used to the go through the same thing, my wife has done a 180 degree flip. Just keep being the peaceful one and showing yourself to be better out of this cult than you were in it.
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ADVANCED WARNING - April 18th to 24th WT Study
by Nicholaus Kopernicus infebruary 2016 study watchtower"prove yourself loyal to jehovah" - week of april 18th to 24th"15. if a brother treats us unfairly, how should we react?
15 in congregations of jehovah’s people today, it is very unlikely that we would be treated unjustly.
however, those taking the lead among us are imperfect men and could misinterpret our actions.
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Every Know Anyone Too "Weak" To Wake Up?
by freemindfade ina jw that is probably irregular, they don't really attend meetings, they are not up on anything going on, they may even seem like they are faded but they are not, they are just slackers.
a jw that is impervious to the f.o.g.
(ok maybe it bums them, but they are too lazy and self serving to do otherwise).
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freemindfade
JW religion = family, friends, safety net, & "just in case its right" insurance.
I would recommend speaking with your spouses more secular way, not in ways that directly relate to JW doctrine, but just day to day stuff. Watching tv, philosophies on life, the world. See if they can start entertaining ideas that will open their mind.
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Every Know Anyone Too "Weak" To Wake Up?
by freemindfade ina jw that is probably irregular, they don't really attend meetings, they are not up on anything going on, they may even seem like they are faded but they are not, they are just slackers.
a jw that is impervious to the f.o.g.
(ok maybe it bums them, but they are too lazy and self serving to do otherwise).
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freemindfade
What do I mean?
A JW that is probably irregular, they don't really attend meetings, they are not up on anything going on, they may even seem like they are faded but they are not, they are just slackers. A JW that is impervious to the F.O.G. (ok maybe it bums them, but they are too lazy and self serving to do otherwise).
But they will fight and defend the organization (cult) to the end! Its almost as if they are not deep enough in it to see it for what it is if they ever had the chance. Its an interesting anomaly I was think about the other day, because I have a section of my family that is this way. They would practically get into a fist fight if they sense you are an apostate, meanwhile I would hardly consider them witnesses!
Terrible meeting attenders, viewed as weak fringe witnesses, sometime they do things that other would consider questionable within the ranks, ie drink too much. But it seems they are just in the cult enough to hang on to it but not see it when its failing. You could say something about something like 607BCE and they wouldn't even know that was part of the religion to start with, and not feel the need to defend OR research it.
Seems like they are in the worst possible spot for coming to their senses because they being willfully ignorant on all fronts. Anyone else experience this individual(s)?
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Your favorite "bumper stickers"
by new boy ini have two.
"please god protect me from your people".
"if you love something let go.......if it doesn't come back, hunt in down and kill it" .
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Damn it feels good to be free and on my own without the pressure to do more as a JW slave
by No Longer a JW Brother ini don't know where to begin but damn it feels so good to be free of mind control.
i'm only officially out since this past december but i was out mentally for two hot years under the close watch of my batshit crazy psycho parents who bothered me every sunday to see what i thought about the meeting.
it was necessary for me to lie through my teeth.
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freemindfade
Great news! Welcome to freedom, the real paradise