Posts by freemindfade

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God loves Gay, Lesbian, and Transgendered People

by FusionTheism in

god's view of gays and lesbians.

why should anyone care what i have to say on this topic?

i am not a priest.

freemindfade

FT you completely missed my point. I can't force you to do anything.

I feel you look at the bible as truth FIRST. Instead of looking at it without bias then deciding if it's truth or not. I'm not forcing you to do anything. I'm just telling you if you can completely let it go. And really look at it from this side. You may or may not go back. That's not forcing. But at least you could rest assured you TRULY saw it from both sides. We've all been on your side. Many for decades. Have you ever been on this end, the view from here is extremely enlightening. Just telling you my experience.

Getting into a debate about this stuff and wasting all this time is like trying to decide who would win in a fight batman or superman. It's just anecdotal because it's fiction.

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God loves Gay, Lesbian, and Transgendered People

by FusionTheism in

god's view of gays and lesbians.

why should anyone care what i have to say on this topic?

i am not a priest.

freemindfade

FusionTheism something probably 99.9% of us on here have in common is at one time we took the bible as the infallible word of god... truth. At one point. Some have abandoned it all together. Some still hold on. You are still holding on.

Since we all gave the bible the courtesy of believing it you should give not believing it some courtesy. Completely look at it from either a neutral standpoint ot fake all together. When you view it as the work of men, believe me the truth in the bible speaks much greater volumes to you, and that truth is its a bunch of rubbish. But you can't ever see thay when you are blinded by bias, when you are afraid the desert god is going to smite you for not believing, that you aren't going to get your own lion petting zoo in paradise. I think you are a sincere person FT and this is not ridicule but grow some balls and look at it for what it is. Just for a whIle. A permanent agnostic is just an atheist without balls. Most all of here that are godless took that trip through agnostism first. Don't get stuck. See it all the way through withou bias, then if you want to go back. OK. But you need to let it all go to see it for what it is. I mean this in all true kindess. Again not trying to belittle you at all.

Your friend FMF.

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God loves Gay, Lesbian, and Transgendered People

by FusionTheism in

god's view of gays and lesbians.

why should anyone care what i have to say on this topic?

i am not a priest.

freemindfade

Bottom line. All scripture is inspired and beneficial... no? That's in the NT and if I am not mistaken refers to the OT as well. So rape. Murder. Bigotry. Incest. Genocide. Hate. All that lovely stuff from the OT is "good" according the NT in your book of fairy tales.

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God loves Gay, Lesbian, and Transgendered People

by FusionTheism in

god's view of gays and lesbians.

why should anyone care what i have to say on this topic?

i am not a priest.

freemindfade

https://youtu.be/HaJgLBoB_Pw

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"Keeping up with Jehovah's Chariot"

by FusionTheism in

clarified understandings / new light of the past 7 years or so:.

* the faithful and discreet slave is only the governing body and only since 1919.. * the faithful slave was appointed in 1919 by jesus but it will not receive its greater authority until the judgment of the sheep and goats.. * charles taze russell was not part of the faithful and discreet slave.. * there was no slave for 1900 years before 1919.. * there may not have been any anointed during those 1900 years, but it's possible there were a few.. * 1935 was not the cut-off date for the selection of the anointed-- this selection is still ongoing.

* 1935 has no special biblical significance.. * 1918 has no special biblical significance.. * gog of magog is not satan, but is a coalition of nations, who may be ruled by the mysterious king of the north.. * there is no evil slave class.

freemindfade

Hard to keep up with a chariot doing doughnuts.

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God loves Gay, Lesbian, and Transgendered People

by FusionTheism in

god's view of gays and lesbians.

why should anyone care what i have to say on this topic?

i am not a priest.

freemindfade

Glad you feel the way you do about gay and lesion fellow humans. That is good. But the bible does not feel that way I'm afraid. The bible contradicts itself to no end so just about anyone can find any justification for anything in it.

The bible is like a prisoner, the more you torture it, it's going to tell you what you want to hear. The end. Lott was righteous so someone could justify knocking up their daughters.

Besides this issues of what people do in their bedrooms is better summed up in the freemindfade bible. It's a little cras but gets the point across.

FMF 6:9 "what you eat don't make me s%$t and who you f $%k don't make me c%m."

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Kudos to you People Who support your Spouse Suffering Meeting Attendance

by smiddy in

jw
friends

i was inspired to post this because so many of you lovingly support your spouse by going to meetings conventions etc .knowing the crap your going to have to put up with , hoping that someday he/she will wake up to the bs.. and your willing to do this for as long as it takes .i take my hat off to you all.. it must take a lot of intestinal fortitude and love to do that .. smiddy.

freemindfade

Thank you. Can only hope one day she wakes up. I think like many she sees it getting strange but would never say and just wants to play along and be sure to get to the paradise petting zoo. So the pioneering and indoctrination goes on.

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Being shunned only increases my certainty that the WBT$ is a cult

by punkofnice in

well, i don't wanna rant too much but sometimes things cut you don't they.. a family member had a get together for the family, jw and non jw and of course i wasn't invited being da'd.. i understand why they couldn't invite me but it just made me think.

in normal society this wouldn't happen.

i'd have been there.. the shunning is so unnatural and damaging.

freemindfade

It's one if not their biggest cult move.

and it's ironic. In my case it went this way "you are acting like a cult..."

"Whhhhhhaaatt!!!! How dare you insult my god and leader (gb) I will now mistreat and shun you!!" F $&%ing twisted.

Even in the convention interview where the parents are depressingly gloating over their shunning. (Again twisted on all levels) they out right say what brought the person back was missing their family. Not that they realized it was the truth. Etc

I often relate this to the inquisition. And torturing someone until they profess whatever the church leaders wanted to hear. How does that make them a true convert?

Stupid cult.

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We are slowly moving away from that kind of preaching work

by oppostate in

john hoyle--jws go knocking on strangers doors and try to get inside homes to preach.. wt rep--we are slowly moving away from that kind of preaching work, we do more preaching by using literature carts and personal telephone calls.. .

the above quote is from john hoyle's website:http://insidethewatchtower.com/doctrine/phone-calls-to-bethel-jw-org-email-and-contacts/.

it's interesting, isn't it?

freemindfade

me too oneeyedjoe, more shifting.

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I'm okay with the "fruitage of the spirit."

by cappytan in

jw
friends

though i now consider myself a secular buddhist, i just realized today that i'm okay with trying to pursue the qualities mentioned by paul as the "fruitage of the spirit.".

the only one i take issue with is "faith" in the context of religion.

what are your thoughts on the matter?.

freemindfade

Not to be mistaken with the pagan fruitage of the loom