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  Would you Agree with this?

  by KW13 in

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  it occured to me that when the new, young elders, ministerial servants and so on take over, they are further and further away from the origin of the witnesses.

  when the lies were fresh in the minds of all, when people saw first hand what was done wrong, giving them the reasons to jump ship and enjoy life, without fear of making a mistake, because they had a good idea of the facts.

  these things have since been brushed under the carpet and the circuit overseers, elders, ministerial servants and so on are more naive and clueless (in my opinion) than ever.. the same applies to the rank and file witnesses.

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  lozhasleft, as you say these people are prepared to die for a cause they do not understand and they haven't even been promised a crowd of virgins in heaven for it!! thats dedication for you lol.

  odie, last time i went in the hall nothing much had changed except i noticed there were less chairs. this could have been coincidence but i'm guessing its to make the empty chairs less obvious.

  Palm tree LOL i think Alice.in.Wonderland may truly be a Wingnut and yes, the generation teaching makes it clear just how brainwashed they are!!

  JWFacts i appreciate what you are saying of course that some would leave the minute hardship rears its ugly head but the hardcore elite (ironically the most clueless and apparently lease intelligent) would do anything just to please the Society. They are all about persecution and fear, they are well prepared for it, almost like some of the members of Jonestown were prepared to give their children poison before drinking it themselves.

  I think you are right about them just accepting things. I think there are people in there, as indeed there always has been just for the ride now or because of other commitments/issues.

  Onthewayout oh i agree 100%. they are encouraged now just to say what they have to say, answer the questions of people with the right attitude (basically idiots with their head up their arse) or run like hell. a lot don't have their heart in it but i think some of them are in it to die, they are in it for the competition to look the most 'holy' and so on.

  Outlaw you look hawt when you laugh... whats your number
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  Would you Agree with this?

  by KW13 in

  1. jw
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  it occured to me that when the new, young elders, ministerial servants and so on take over, they are further and further away from the origin of the witnesses.

  when the lies were fresh in the minds of all, when people saw first hand what was done wrong, giving them the reasons to jump ship and enjoy life, without fear of making a mistake, because they had a good idea of the facts.

  these things have since been brushed under the carpet and the circuit overseers, elders, ministerial servants and so on are more naive and clueless (in my opinion) than ever.. the same applies to the rank and file witnesses.

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  Exactly. At the moment there is absolutely no sound logic coming from the Society and the very reasons the whole Organization began have been lost somewhere over time, known only i think to a privileged few, in charge of this madness that we used to call the 'truth'. I think these people work tirelessly to ensure that the money comes in and the lies don't go out. Its quite clear the Watchtower Society is a money making machine which i would bet, has some ties to some very odd groups and people.
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  Resurrection: A Cruel Joke?

  by cameo-d in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a few months ago i read an article about this in discover magazine.

  as i realized the implications it gave me a sick, eerie feeling.. in short, suppose memories of the deceased are collected and downloaded into a program?.

  what you are about to see is a prototype program for what i suspect may be robotic construction for the near future of resurrecting loved ones who have passed on.

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  its rather strange isnt it, it doesnt make me comfortable thinking of dead loved ones being downloaded on to a computer...
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  Would you Agree with this?

  by KW13 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it occured to me that when the new, young elders, ministerial servants and so on take over, they are further and further away from the origin of the witnesses.

  when the lies were fresh in the minds of all, when people saw first hand what was done wrong, giving them the reasons to jump ship and enjoy life, without fear of making a mistake, because they had a good idea of the facts.

  these things have since been brushed under the carpet and the circuit overseers, elders, ministerial servants and so on are more naive and clueless (in my opinion) than ever.. the same applies to the rank and file witnesses.

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  It occured to me that when the new, young Elders, Ministerial Servants and so on take over, they are further and further away from the origin of the Witnesses. When the lies were fresh in the minds of all, when people saw first hand what was done wrong, giving them the reasons to jump ship and enjoy life, without fear of making a mistake, because they had a good idea of the facts. These things have since been brushed under the carpet and the Circuit Overseers, Elders, Ministerial Servants and so on are more naive and clueless (in my opinion) than ever.

  The same applies to the rank and file witnesses. They stumble around not knowing a thing about their religion and blindly follow because their father did it, and his father before him. The old ones who literally carried the congregation for many years are dieing out, taking with them the secrets of the past but leaving behind their twisted logic.

  This gives the Society free reign to do as they wish and it seems they are doing so.

  Yes people are leaving and people are discovering for themselves what the Society is about but there is still a new generation of Witnesses that may well be more dangerous than the last because they stand for a cause they don't understand. When confronted one day, perhaps by a worldwide ban what will their fear and confusion drive them to do? I personally think the walls are being built up, forcing its members to adopt a siege mentality. Reading the comments on the News Article about that JW who molested a young girl, it becomes clear that anything that does not quite sit right in their brainwashed minds, must be an attack.

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  "Satan loves to use the power of sex and womenly seduction to tempt Jehovah's people away from the Truth. Surely this is a sign we are in the last days. Now that the demons can get into the Kingdom Hall we need to protect ourselves and draw even closer to Jehovah"

  There have been a lot of steps taken recently that seem to isolate the Witnesses from the 'world' more than ever. Study and Public editions of the Watchtower for example, its another divide between them and us.
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  Welcome To This World. Can you look into your childs eyes and do this?

  by whereami in

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rwioe1sgkq.

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  To answer your question Whereami, no i could not.
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  Just Heard Some Shocking News

  by jookbeard in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  a predatory jw paedophile micheal porter (uk) who has a 15 year record of abuse including the rape of his own baby but somehow evaded jail now is a member of my old congregation;wimbledon.

  words fail me, to think of the years of shunning that these idiots have heaped upon me even by my own family and this piece of shit was seen a this years memorial laughing and joking with the congregation.

  strange that this news story slipped passed me when it was broadcast by the british media in 2007..

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  Shocking really, because while at the moment he's being left to his own devices there is nothing to stop him reoffending and the Kingdom Hall will one day provide him with an opportunity if it hasn't done already to abuse a child or children.
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  Late breaking and local - San Antonio, TX - older man fondles pre-teen at Kingdom Hall on meeting night

  by Jim_TX in

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  2. child-abuse

  this is posted on the local tv news web site, i hope the link works.... http://www.kens5.com/news/local/police-say-sa-man-molested-girl-at-south-side-church.html.

  police say s.a. man molested girl at south-side church .

  by marvin hurst / kens 5. .

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  Admittedly the story is awful, but read the comments and tell me that the stupidity of them isn't hilarious. They sound like nutcases, they are saying quite awful things but they are also arguing with each other. Priceless.
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  Found something kinda freaky on Google

  by StAnn in

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  2. relationships

  i don't know why but, for some reason, tonight i decided to google someone i used to date (seriously but briefly) back in the 1990's.

  i put in his name and up came~you guessed it~his obituary.

  he's been dead for over nine years!

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  Sorry to hear that StAnn, a few folks i knew and one i was close to have died and it just doesnt sit right does it and probably never will. Hope you resolve the mystery anyway.
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  remove email address from biography?

  by KW13 in

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  how do i edit my biography, i cant find the control panel on here....

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  How do i edit my biography, i cant find the control panel on here...
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  Ray Franz has had a stroke

  by coffee_black in

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  just setting the record straight.

  there is another thread that notes a claim on wiki that said that ray has died.. he had a stroke yesterday, and is in the hospital.

  he is still alive.

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  If the worst happens, at least he can leave with a clean conscience. He helped so many of us, he freed so many minds.