Posts by Calliope

just a question: if you are still jws (for any reason, many just can`t leave because their entire families are wrapped around it, etc), but don`t believe in it, and lead a "double life", how do you cope with going door to door?

i just can`t imagine how it must feel like to go out there and try to tell people at the doors or in the streets things you know are just bs!

how do you deal with that?

Calliope

i think i can safely say some of us find it very difficult to fade 100% from this secret society, and so the masquerade is to show up at some meetings here and there and participate (loosely defined) in the "service".

i've been trying to figure out this week if i'm gonna actually write "0 hours" for the first time ever, on the report, or if i won't put one in at all. then expect the service overseer to call me and ask my time... i'm trying to figure out if i'm even going to go to the next meeting. should i study the wtower? should i comment at the meeting and keep up the pretense?

i still feel some kind of guilt (don't ask me to explain, i don't quite understand it myself). sometimes, i just want to throw in the towel, pretend i never started reading CoC or any other aposta-literature and become a pioneer like nothing ever happened.

arghhhh...

of the "i'm popping valium" class.

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No help from the JW brotherhood?

by greendawn in

jw
friends

during your time as jws were there times that you were in need for some help from the jw brotherhood but felt let down because no one cared to help you?

did you feel resentful and began to suspect that this org is heartless and hypocritical?

Calliope

interesting fact... now that my other-half and i are seperating, my family is pressuring me to talk to my elders. like "they should know what you are going through. they'll be able to help you."

another fact... it's been 12 months since my other half da-ed himself, and they haven't spoken to me since then... so why again should i initiate a request for their assistance? they're likely to reprove me anyway cause i don't have the "grounds" for a divorce.

then i was told, "well if you don't talk to the elders, why don't you call bethel?"

uh... wtf?

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Can you celebrate your 100th birthday when you are a JW?

by blondie in

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friends

as a devout jehovah's witness, mrs. merle is prohibited from celebrating her birthday.

but a week from tomorrow, relatives and friends will flock to the camoset village country living mobile home park in johnstown to attend a super bowl party that just happens to feature ice cream and cake.. "that's why we're calling it a super bowl party," explained her son bob merle, 73, who lives just five trailers down the road.

"we don't celebrate birthdays, but we have to celebrate 100 years," said mrs. mechem, 78.

Calliope

WHAT?!??!?! Wits are allowed to attend Super Bowl parties?

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IT HAS BEGUN "BIG" NEWS ON AP NEWS WIRE

by DannyHaszard in

religion today

monterey county herald, ca - 2 minutes ago .

new york - jehovah's witnesses are renowned for teaching that jesus is not god and that the world as we know it will soon end.

Calliope

because of ambiguity in the Bible

i keep seeing this sentence over and over again.

the bible? ambiguous? nah... can't be.

and gregor, holy crap, you totally had me going there. "what, wits swearing in a released statement? This must truly be the end of the system."

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The New System

by sandy in

is there enough scriptural support for the beleif in a paradise here on earth?

i heard somebody say that there isn't.

i curious to here any other thoughts on this.

Calliope

but the wits ARE living in a spiritual paradise right now!!! don't you remember what it was like? all fun and reprimand. possibly a lot like this coming "new system"...

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Watchtower failing in it's stated purpose

by yaddayadda in

the watchtower is failing in it's stated purpose contained on the inside cover of every issue.

"it keeps watch on world events as these fulfill bible prophecy".

when was the last time you read an article that discussed current world events and how they are related to bible prophecy?

Calliope

They are afraid to go out on a limb anymore

it would be interesting if they sent out a call for ALL witnesses to don their placards and hit the streets:

"THE END IS NEAR"

that would be "going out on a limb". i wonder how many would accept the invitation...

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In love with a JW, HELP!!!

by secretlove in

jw
friends

14 years ago i was a sophomore in high school and fell head over heels for a senior (we'll call him mike) who wasn't really in to me.

i was raised catholic and he, a jw.

i wrote him lots of notes, sent him teddy bears and tried to win his heart.

Calliope

further,

in my very very humble opinion, love is never what it seems.

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In love with a JW, HELP!!!

by secretlove in

jw
friends

14 years ago i was a sophomore in high school and fell head over heels for a senior (we'll call him mike) who wasn't really in to me.

i was raised catholic and he, a jw.

i wrote him lots of notes, sent him teddy bears and tried to win his heart.

Calliope

ummm, questions:

did you guys actually discuss divorcing your current spouses?

did you guys voice not being happy in your current marriages?

did he say he wanted to be with you?

perhaps i need more of the story, but it sounds to me like he's not making any decisions soon...