Posts by Calliope

i don't have a picture, but i identify with ... pause for effect ... Holden Caulfield. there are probably others. i'll have to give this some thought. Calliopé

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It's not what they believe that we despise, it's how they behave!

by Check_Your_Premises in

jw
friends

well my wife totally got on my nerves last night.

i was trying to work out some compromises on the holidays with her.

i spent a ton of time thinking about it, studying about it, and writing things down.

i will start with a sheepish apology... i will be the minority here. maybe... give your wife... some time?

i was that wife. perhaps my circumstances were different, but my resistance and near arrogance were the result of sheer fear. and frustration. and uncertainty. and doubt.

i wanted to believe the truth. i wanted to ignore my doubts. i wanted to play dumb and ignorant in hopes of not having to confront what turned out to be inevitable...

it took patience and time.

of course, i already had doubts (and perhaps your wife will never question any of the wits views). So for me, the transition into accepting the doubts and researching them was just waiting to happen.

and here i am today.

Cal.

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The other sheep: Looking for an apologist to offer an explanation

by IP_SEC in

a verse constantly plucked from context by witnesses is john 10:16. they use it to prove that there are two classes of christian.. and i have other sheep i have other sheep, which are not of this fold: those also i must bring and they will listen to my voice, and they will become one flock, one shepherd.. the this fold say witnesses are anointed christians and the other sheep are christians with an earthly hope.. read the text carefully and in context, and i challenge anyone to be able to prove that.. in chapter 9 jesus heals a man born blind.

this infuriates the pharisees who then attack the healed man and threaten him with being expelled from the synagogue.

the man will not recant and is thrown out.. jesus finds him and asks him to be his follower.

Calliope

i wish i could work through one erroneous wit claim per week, but i keep coming on the board and being overwhelmed with these thoroughly researched issues that blow the borg out of the water.

IP_SEC, when do you have time to research these things?
i am in awe of your fastidiousness (if that's a word)...

about the scriptures "interpretation", it seems so clear when you read the context now. how does the borg come up with these aberrations?

Cal.

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Pioneer Sister is Even Confused about The Annointed...Now I'm Confused!

by stillAwitness in

ok, this time i wasn't snooping around but i was eavesdropping in a conversation the co was having with the freeloader pioneer sister who has been staying with us:

apparently she was a bit confused as to what will happen during the 'new system" between her and her husband.

this is where it gets confusing and i need help understanding this: (i could only get in a few tidbits of the convo here and there: ya'll don't know how hard it is to have your ear pressed to a door fro 30 minutes!

Calliope

that's one issue i've always had difficulties with.

even if you're not anointed (if this all in fact did exist) and you live thru armageddon (if it were to really happen), end up in the new system (if there was to be such a thing) waiting by your deceased husbands grave only to be reminded that once he is resurrected, you will not be like husband and wife, but like brother and sister... or some shite like that.

how can you then apply rev 21:3,4

And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore

how could you not be sorrowful over losing your husband??? unless god intended to offer something better. hmmmm?

and then when you ask about this, you get some shite answer like "don't try to get ahead of god's chariot, lest you get run over." in other words, "don't ask, we don't know"...

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The GREATEST IRONY of Shunning and Disfellowshiping

by Trojan in

i have lately started to think many things over.

as i adquire more knowledge, or other kind of knowledge, i see things more and more in another light.

it's a strange and thrilling experience i'm going through.

Calliope

i was just talking with someone about this.

it's purely psychological blackmail, it's emotional entrapment. the threat of df-ing and shunning keeps people INSIDE. it's like telling an abused victim, that if s/he ever told, there would be serious consequences, and so they never tell, they never leave, they suffer in silence.

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Kissing

by MindGhost in

does jehovah witnesses believe that kissing between man and women before marriage is allowed by the bible?.

the type[s] i have in mind is the kissing between a boyfriend-girlfriend couple [intimate kiss on the lips] or kissing like 'making out' on one night or so.

regarding other types, if jw [&others] think the bible has a different stand, please tell.. thanks in advance,

Calliope

so if kissing can lead to heavy petting, and heavy petting can lead to pornea...

is dry humping safe?

Cal.

of the innocent-batting-eyelash class.

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Letter From Society about UN

by skyman in

Calliope

they have 2 answers for everything.

1 - it's okay for US to do it, but not for you.

2 - if you can't find an answer to a question, be patient. do not run ahead of the "celestial" chariot.

it's disturbing that they can explain anything away so trivially, but they won't think twice about exacting unfair judgement on others.

arghhhhh!

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Letter From Society about UN

by skyman in

Calliope

by the way, thanks skyman and auld soul for posting the letters. quite an eye opener.