rotfl..... i have my own methods if dealing with dubs at the door.
i often say, "sorry, i am off to donate blood.
" they run......fast!!!!!!.
My Mom used to tell them she "I am an Atheist, Thank God!"
When I was about 15 or so, many moons ago and long before I allowed myself to be sucked in, I answered the door to two young JW girls wearing only my Fruit of the Looms and asked them if they wanted to have sex with me. I never saw them again. Then, about 30 years later, I was dumb enough to join. Go figure!
If God's Spirit is filling a Kingdom Hall, how is it that Satan can manuever the ones within that Kingdom Hall at the same time?
the u.s. government is returning john walker to the states for trial.
what do you consider an appropriate punishment for his mis-deeds?.
i think, he should be[if found guilty]stipped of his citizenship and returned to somewhere in the mideast to spend the rest of his life,with no possibility to return to the u.s. for any reason.
I don't think he should be returned to the States at all. Just like the rest of the Taliban, he should be turned over to the Afghanis and let them deal with his as they will the rest. Why should we be subjected to another OJ style trial where some crooked lawyer will get up and whine about how America mistreated the poor lad and caused him to go astray?
If God's Spirit is filling a Kingdom Hall, how is it that Satan can manuever the ones within that Kingdom Hall at the same time?
http://detnews.com/2001/oakland/0106/08/d04-233294.htm .
at least the dubs are good for something....!.
ana.
2. They burn tremendous amounts of fuel, which provides profits for oil companies.3. They utilize nearly obsolete, but still functional assets (such as 1940's clothing, and old mini vans), that would otherwise be wasted.
By driving old vans and all the stop and go they do, they also contribute more air pollution, not to mention mind pollution.
If God's Spirit is filling a Kingdom Hall, how is it that Satan can manuever the ones within that Kingdom Hall at the same time?
http://detnews.com/2001/oakland/0106/08/d04-233294.htm .
at least the dubs are good for something....!.
ana.
I wonder if they are requesting the community and local businesses to foot part of their expenses as they were doing in the Washington Tri-Cities area? Makes me wonder why all the pressure for donations when the locals were paying almost half of the convention expenses!
If God's Spirit is filling a Kingdom Hall, how is it that Satan can manuever the ones within that Kingdom Hall at the same time?
im seeking advice..... i know, i would be talking into the wind.
but i would like to answer this stinking article that was in the awake mag.
im doing it for me, not for anyone else!
Since they consider DFing so loving, wouldn't that make those of us who DA'd even more loving????? Isn't it loving that we told them to go rot in hell?
Just think, it didn't even take a committee to pretend to pray and be told by God to throw us out, we did it on our own.
If God's Spirit is filling a Kingdom Hall, how is it that Satan can manuever the ones within that Kingdom Hall at the same time?
has any dude here ever had any advertised results from 30 days' worth of longitude capsules for penis lengthening (lengthening of 26%).
i just saw their ad on tv and of course it sounds too good to be true, but why pass up something if it really works?
( http://www.longitudecapsules.com and http://www.cpnutritionals.com).
I always liked the joke, "You might have a redneck HMO if your viagra prescription consists of a popsicle stick and a roll of duct tape."
Seriously, sex has always been the least of my worries, even while still a JW.
If God's Spirit is filling a Kingdom Hall, how is it that Satan can manuever the ones within that Kingdom Hall at the same time?
thanks l i s a for your helf...as a youngun i was disf.
2xs and on public reproof 3xs before 21 yrs...then 10 yrs ago i did it to myself dissassociated..lisa was never babtized so the babe does not count as far as the organizational rules and regulations are concerned..gossip had it in the glendale, ca.
congregation i linda kersey was forward and aggressive and oversexed before age 14 and i was still a virgin--age 15 then i made good the gossip mostly with the worldly dudes..got hitched to lisas pappy now decd and another story and chapter in my book the one i aint writ yet..got unhithched when sweet lisa was about 7 yrs old..have been celibate and single mumy since--22 yrs now..i sleep in a single bed alone--i made my bed now i must sleep in it..that is the way iy is folks..i told mine now tell yours!!!
I don't think we have even seen the most scandalous ones yet.
If God's Spirit is filling a Kingdom Hall, how is it that Satan can manuever the ones within that Kingdom Hall at the same time?
on the back cover of the feb. 22/02 awake, we have the.
enchanting story of a young man who won a prize for an.
essay "the space race- the world's biggest money waster".. he credits his victory in this anti-intellectual pursuit.
"Watchtower Study - The world's biggest waste of a brain"
If God's Spirit is filling a Kingdom Hall, how is it that Satan can manuever the ones within that Kingdom Hall at the same time?
im seeking advice..... i know, i would be talking into the wind.
but i would like to answer this stinking article that was in the awake mag.
im doing it for me, not for anyone else!
Is this what you are seeking, the entire Awake article?
*** g96 9/8 26-7 Why Disfellowshipping Is a Loving Arrangement ***
The Bible’s Viewpoint
Why Disfellowshipping Is a Loving Arrangement
EXCOMMUNICATION—the very idea stirs up mixed feelings among many religious people. Most people agree that religions need some sort of discipline. But many view excommunication as a relic from the past—a harsh style of discipline that reminds them of witch-hunts and inquisitions.
Adding to the problem is the pervasive influence of the secular world. Thus, most of Christendom’s religions have adopted a more tolerant view of sin. Little wonder, then, that one Episcopalian minister said: “Excommunication is part of our tradition, but I don’t think it’s been invoked in this century.”
However, many people may be surprised to learn that among Jehovah’s Witnesses, disfellowshipping (the equivalent of excommunication) is taken seriously. Granted, it is not an easy action to take, but it is a loving arrangement. How so?
It Upholds God’s Name
Jehovah is a holy God. He does not tolerate deliberate sin on the part of those claiming to worship him. The apostle Peter wrote to Christians: “Become holy yourselves in all your conduct, because it is written: ‘You must be holy, because I am holy.’” (1 Peter 1:15, 16) So disfellowshipping unrepentant sinners upholds God’s holy name; it shows love for that name.—Compare Hebrews 6:10.
Does this mean that if a Christian succumbs to weakness or stumbles into grave sin, he is automatically expelled from the congregation? By no means! Jehovah is not a coldhearted dictator. He is merciful and understanding. He remembers that we are imperfect. (Psalm 103:14) Jehovah recognizes that “all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.” (Romans 3:23) God has arranged for spiritual help within the congregation so that if a Christian takes a “false step” or even commits a serious sin, he may be lovingly ‘readjusted’ in a spirit of mildness. (Galatians 6:1) By accepting counsel from God’s Word and demonstrating heartfelt sorrow and genuine repentance, one who has strayed from the path of righteousness can “get healed” spiritually.—James 5:13-16.
What, though, if a baptized Christian seriously errs and all efforts to restore him are unsuccessful? In other words, what if he stubbornly refuses to correct his sinful course?
It Keeps the Congregation Safe
The Bible commands Christians: “Quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man.”—1 Corinthians 5:11.
Is this Bible law harsh and demeaning? Just consider this: When a hardened criminal is sent to prison for breaking the law, is that viewed as harsh or coldhearted? No, because the public has the right to safeguard the peace and security of the community. In effect, the criminal is disfellowshipped from law-abiding society during his prison term.
Similarly, the Christian congregation is justified in expelling unrepentant wrongdoers from their midst. Why? Because the congregation must be a haven from immoral predators and other willful practicers of sin.
Realizing that “one sinner can destroy much good,” the apostle Paul commanded fellow believers: “Remove the wicked man from among yourselves.” (Ecclesiastes 9:18; 1 Corinthians 5:13) This action prevents the sinner from spreading corruption in the congregation, and it protects the congregation’s good name.—Compare 1 Timothy 3:15.
Protection for Individuals
Disfellowshipping also protects individual members of the congregation. Let us illustrate: Imagine being roused from sleep by the noisy blast of a car horn or alarm. The piercing sound is difficult to ignore; indeed, it startles you! Likewise, when someone is expelled from the congregation, the action hopefully grabs the attention of every member of the flock. It disturbs their senses. It cannot be ignored. How may this be a protection?
“When I first heard at the Kingdom Hall that someone had been disfellowshipped, my initial reaction was shock,” says one Witness. “Then it humbled me. It made me realize that I too could fall.” As her words indicate, disfellowshipping can move others to take stock of their conduct.—1 Corinthians 10:12.
By asking ourselves questions such as ‘Are there any areas of my life in which I am spiritually vulnerable?’ we can be helped to examine our own standing with God. In this way we can continue to ‘work out our own salvation with fear and trembling.’—Philippians 2:12.
Return to God
“As hard as it was,” said one Christian who was expelled for a time, “the discipline was necessary and much needed, and it proved to be lifesaving.” This highlights another important aspect of disfellowshipping. It can move previously unrepentant sinners to take their first steps back to God.
The apostle Paul said: “Whom Jehovah loves he disciplines.” (Hebrews 12:6) And while it is true that “no discipline seems for the present to be joyous, but grievous; yet afterward to those who have been trained by it it yields peaceable fruit, namely, righteousness.”—Hebrews 12:11.
That is what happened to Richard. After being disfellowshipped for almost two years, he repented, corrected his God-dishonoring conduct, and was accepted back into the Christian congregation. Looking back, he says regarding the experience: “I realize that I had to be disfellowshipped and that I fully deserved what I got. It really was necessary and helped me to see just how serious my course was and the need to seek Jehovah’s forgiveness.”
Discipline may not be easy to endure. Accepting it requires humility, but those who learn from it reap bountiful fruitage.
Therefore, disfellowshipping is a loving arrangement because it upholds God’s holy name and it protects the congregation from the corrupting influence of sin. Also, it demonstrates love for the wrongdoer by encouraging him to repent and “turn around so as to get [his] sins blotted out, that seasons of refreshing may come from the person of Jehovah.”—Acts 3:19.
[Footnote]
Excommunication is a disciplinary action that results in exclusion from membership in a religion.
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The New Testament: A Pictorial Archive from Nineteenth-Century Sources, by Don Rice/Dover Publications, Inc.
If God's Spirit is filling a Kingdom Hall, how is it that Satan can manuever the ones within that Kingdom Hall at the same time?
i had not been visiting the board for some time until just recently, so a lot of you don't even know me, but i wanted to announce that my wife and i are having a baby.
we just found out not too long ago.
today, though, was amazing!
CONGRADULATIONS!
I hope you enjoy being a parent as much as I have. My first was born in an Army hospital in Germany and I was allowed to be in the delivery room, that was 1972. The second was a hospital in North Carolina, and they wouldn't allow me in, made me wait four floors below. I didn't care much for that, naturally.
To me, having my daughters and watching them grow and now, seeing them as adults having their own families makes my life grand. I can't tell you how tickled I am that neither one followed me in getting involved with the JWs and now, they are tickled that I have left them.
Enjoy the kids, they do make life worthwhile, even the bad times (like messy diapers)
If God's Spirit is filling a Kingdom Hall, how is it that Satan can manuever the ones within that Kingdom Hall at the same time?
