Posts by DakotaRed

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The elders really piss me off

by butalbee in

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okay, so i'm there at work, working merrily along[not], when elder wart nose comes over by me, and asks me questions about this anti-jw site, that he's heard about.

i ask him, where he got his info, "he's got his resources" he says.

so, i'm like, "so fucking what?".

You might inform Brother Shithead that there are stalking laws in affect in most all of the states now and if he doesn't cease and desist immediately with his so-called watching of you, you will file charges against him and the entire congregation, whoever may be watching you. Better yet, send him a certified letter written on letter head stationary. Make up a ficticious lawfirm, something like the lawfirm of Colt, Remington, Smith & Wesson.

This jerk has no right or call to tell you what you can or cannot do. The only thing he could do is to prevent your baptism into the holy witchtower. That might not be such a bad thing anyway.

Also, I would tell that other "brother," the one you are thinking of marrying, to go straight to hell! What sort of husband is it that will report to these nazis everything you tell him? Although I doubt he would report you for giving him a blow job. You don't need hypocrites like that in your life.

If you are worried missing Mr. Wonderful, look upon it like missing a bus. You needn't worry, another will be along shortly. Maybe one that put his love for you above that of a manmade organization!

If God's Spirit is filling a Kingdom Hall, how is it that Satan can manuever the ones within that Kingdom Hall at the same time?

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Asinine JW remark

by target in

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i had a letter today from the idiot jw "friend" back in wisconsin who was spreading all the gossip about us and she said something that is so stupid, but yet so jwish.

she said that "even if it were to turn out that everything the society has taught is wrong and armageddon never comes, the organization is still the best place to be.

" people with that mindset never will wake up.

DakotaRed

Some people are just afraid to think for themselves. That is how all religions get to their followers and screw them up. The Watchtower just seems to have perfected the practice.

I feel that those who are too afraid to think for themselves feel if they end up doing wrong, then they aren't to blame. After all, they were just doing what they told to do. Be it paradise, heaven, or wherever we may end up after we die, that attitude will get them in safely, I believe.

Many people want others to be responsible for their actions. And, the WT eats that crappy attitude up. In fact, they have gotten over six million to follow them that way!

If God's Spirit is filling a Kingdom Hall, how is it that Satan can manuever the ones within that Kingdom Hall at the same time?

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I am meeting with my father - HELP

by wildeflower in

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friends

ok here goes - after 15 years of unimaginable shit (wait, you guys can imagine!

) and a tearful phone conversation tonight with my mother & father, my father is willing to sit & discuss jehovah's witnesses with me (he actually sounds open).

i left the borg when i was 17. my father is an elder.

DakotaRed

Go to the following article and print it out. Have him read it and see if he is receptive to it. Don't be too surprised if he receives it coldly, but at least you will know what his motive is. Personally, I found the article to be well written and researched.

His motive may be to argue you into being a JW yourself, be prepared.

http://www.xjw.com/shunning.html

If God's Spirit is filling a Kingdom Hall, how is it that Satan can manuever the ones within that Kingdom Hall at the same time?

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Did we just kill Bin Laden?

by freeman in

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there is a story on the news wire services to the effect that the american forces have killed some top leadership personnel in bin ladens terror network.

a contact and friend of mine that works for one of those nice 3 letter organizations said the guys were high-five-ing all over the place last night.

he said it was in fact his agency that pulled the trigger via remote control and "placed a hell-fire in the middle of the bastards".

DakotaRed

Personally, I would hate to see him killed or imprisoned. I think he should remain free in any radical Islamic country there is. Of course, he should be kidnapped and spirited away and undergo a sex change operation first.

Let him live out his life being mistreated as a woman is in the Muslim world.

If God's Spirit is filling a Kingdom Hall, how is it that Satan can manuever the ones within that Kingdom Hall at the same time?

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Atomic Bomb

by deceit in

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i often wonder wether there will be a day in my lifetime when i hear-.

'it has been confirmed that a nuclea bomb has been droped on _________ by the ________ , total damage cannot be assesed nor numbers, but the city of _______ is no more......'.

with the way america is acting lately, i have to wonder wether they are medling into other countries affairs too much, and now with this speach that bush made naming countries, asking congress for the highest ever defence budget since the cold war ect ect.. what is the hidden agenda in all of this?

DakotaRed

Actually, nuclear threats don't worry me as much as they used too. Having grown up in the 50's when we practiced what to do in case of atomic attack all the time, and having served in the military for a bit, it is almsot second nature to have them around. If one is dropped, there is nothing I can do about it. I only hope if it ever does happen, I get vaporized immediately and won't have to endure the aftermath.

If God's Spirit is filling a Kingdom Hall, how is it that Satan can manuever the ones within that Kingdom Hall at the same time?

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My problem....

by LDH in

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ok guys i have a problem and i can use your input.. i've been trying to drop little hints about the 'troof' for a year and a half now.. unfortunately i think i have a late-in-life case of adhd because i can't stay focused on one topic.

i would like to discuss one topic rationally with my father (mother doesn't talk to me) but somehow i end up getting all emotional and wanting to shout "are you f-ing blind?

that religion is a scam and you have wasted 35 years of your life!".

DakotaRed

Hi Lisa;

Unfortunately, you cannot control what another thinks or believes. No matter how we want to awaken them, they have to see the light for themselves. Parents especially have a hard time adjusting to their kids knowing something better than they do. Then too, the sudden shock of all their beliefs being challenged can be too much to handle at one time.

Do a web search for Restoration Light Bible Studies. That is an American Bible Student site who share many theological beliefs with the JWs, but don't practice the doctrinal issues. Of course, they are the ones that broke away when Rutherford stole the society. They have many excellent articles about JW practices that are very well researched, especially on shunning, birthdays and such. Maybe seeing what they say won't be too much of a shock to your parents and they will see the light. But, ultimately, they will have to see it for themselves. All you can do is show them what you have discovered.

Lew

Here should be alink to their index site. http://reslight.addr.com/indexrl.html

If God's Spirit is filling a Kingdom Hall, how is it that Satan can manuever the ones within that Kingdom Hall at the same time?

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I Helped My Sweetheart.........

by picosito in

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.......get out of the borg.

she always had nagging doubts during her 10 years as a jw, and when she asked me about why i was not going to meetings anymore she herself started to see the light at the end of the tunnel and gradually asked me more and more questions to help herself out.

now she's faded out completely, is enjoying her newfound freedom, and tonight just told me that the more reprehensible jw's are "shitheads in sheeps' clothing.

DakotaRed

Can I count her as an unBible study?

Only if you don't enter the time on your service slip and don't turn it in.

If God's Spirit is filling a Kingdom Hall, how is it that Satan can manuever the ones within that Kingdom Hall at the same time?

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Putin-powerful, but not his own power

by proplog2 in

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the points keep lining up.

daniel 8:23 identifies three.

characteristics of the "king" that will stand against the prince of.

DakotaRed

The three characteristics are as follows:
1. Stern faced or having a fierce countenance
2. Master of deception -
3. Becomes powerful but not by his own power.

Sounds an awful lot like the Governing Body of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. Is there one in particular you are accusing, or the lot of them?

If God's Spirit is filling a Kingdom Hall, how is it that Satan can manuever the ones within that Kingdom Hall at the same time?

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I Agree with the Watchtower, wholeheartedly!

by Focus in

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ginny tosken's sensible words in:.

* http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=20973&site=3.

are food for thought for those who leap out from the watchtower fire into some other cultic or other frying pan, which, while highly unlikely to be quite as perverted, destructive and wicked as the jehovah's witnesses organization, is at best half a solution.. i agree with the watchtower, wholeheartedly, on these ones:.

DakotaRed

Isn't a one on one relationship with God what matters anyways? I too am part of a one man religion, MINE! No, service hours, no meetings, no clergy, no DFing, no silly assed rules, no Governing Body, no magazines, no publications at all, no conventions, no suit and tie, no second class women, nothing at all, just me and God and my Bible study!

No one has to agree with me and I don't try to make others feel as if they are stupid or a lessor being. It all stays between me and God. If someone does come along and agree with me, I invite them to form their own one person religion and keep between them and God.

How much simpler can it be?

If God's Spirit is filling a Kingdom Hall, how is it that Satan can manuever the ones within that Kingdom Hall at the same time?

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Explanation Of New Light?????

by LaDonnaAna in

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you can copy your post below to make sure it is not lost:.

at least this jw "tries" to explain the constant ever changing "new light".

http://www.geocities.com/ekron35/light.html.

DakotaRed

As he states, if one has been in the dark so long, isn't it better to gradually bring in the light? Does that cover their usual accusation of ex's drifting away? We gradually received the light and awakened from the dark of the Watchtower?

I wonder if that gradual exposure to the light should apply to DFing? Since DFing suddenly thrusts one from dark to light, maybe that is what they hope will shock truth seekers back into the fold? Hoping the light will hurt their eyes?

I give the site owner credit, though. At least he knows how to copy and paste from the Watchtower CD (comments taken from the Proclaimers Book). Hmm, now I wonder why the Watchtower isn't threatening him with a copyright infringement lawsuit?

If God's Spirit is filling a Kingdom Hall, how is it that Satan can manuever the ones within that Kingdom Hall at the same time?