i've heard alot of jehovah's witnesses say that the won't say that a catholic person isn't going to be saved.
their resoning is that a catholic person could be in the paradise.
ok if a catholic person can inherit the earth and a jw can inherit the earth, what the hell does it matter?
Publicly, they will not state that other religions may be saved also. Privately, they do teach that only JWs will be the ones saved. Besides that, Catholics are not out selling the literature.
If God's Spirit is filling a Kingdom Hall, how is it that Satan can manuever the ones within that Kingdom Hall at the same time?
do you still have all your wt literature from your days in the "truth"??.
when i moved from ky to ohio nearly 3 years ago, i left all my books, notes, everything, on the bookshelves in my home.
i never packed them up - nothing.
I still have all my literature as well as the '95 and '99 CDs. I also have a fairly extensive library of other religious literature, including the Qu'Ran and Book of Mormon. I have it all to see just what control all religions have over their followers and what real harm they do by that control. Plus, it is easy to see that they follow mans words and not Gods. After all, they depend on man to translate the Bible and as we all know, scholars have not been able to agree on translations, but put their personal biases into their work, leaving us with many hundreds of different translations.
Much of the older litearture I view as historical evidence and lessons learned the hard way.
If God's Spirit is filling a Kingdom Hall, how is it that Satan can manuever the ones within that Kingdom Hall at the same time?
i turned in a request (by letter) for reinstatement last week and ive been informed that i will meeting with my original judicial committee this coming wednesday.
im very excited and happy, but at the same time i want to be careful how i conduct myself.
in the last meeting in early march, my reinstatement request was turned down.
With statement as the following, who wouldn’t want to rush to the nearest back room at a Kingdom Hall and confess all?
*** w99 1/15 19 Lift Up Loyal Hands in Prayer ***Now, if confession to God is required, why contact an elder body to air your dirty laundry and do God’s thinking for him? If serious about going back, I wish you well. But, you said you have prayed to God and maybe, He answered you many times over within their own literature.
14 To receive God’s forgiveness, confession to him must be coupled with contrition and “fruits that befit repentance.” (Luke 3:8; Job 42:1-6; Isaiah 66:2)*** w95 1/1 27 Determining Weakness, Wickedness, and Repentance ***
Hence, when a dedicated Christian commits gross sin, something more than personal confession to Jehovah is needed.*** w95 9/15 31 A Meaningless Ritual? ***
A Meaningless Ritual?
THE sacrament of confession has been practiced by Catholics for centuries. Yet, for many it is an empty routine. Reflecting on his youth, a high school principal named Bob says: “I was a teenager, and even then I didn’t take it seriously.” Why not? For him, confession had become a meaningless ritual. He explains: “Confession was like bringing all your luggage full of sins up to the customs man at the airport. He asks you questions about your sins and then he lets you go through after paying something for the luxury items you bought while you were abroad.”
Similarly, Frank Wessling, writing in U.S. Catholic, describes the practice of confession as “an extremely simplified step-by-step guide, from checkoff of common sins through memorized prayer of repentance to ritual act of token penance.” Wessling’s conclusion? “I’m convinced that Confession is good for the soul,” he says. “But the way Catholics do it is a problem.”
The Bible presents confession in a completely different manner. Most important is confession to God. (Psalm 32:1-5) And the Christian disciple James wrote: “Is there anyone sick among you? Let him call the older men of the congregation to him, and let them pray over him, greasing him with oil in the name of Jehovah. Therefore openly confess your sins to one another and pray for one another, that you may get healed.”—James 5:14, 16.
A Christian burdened with sin can call the congregation overseers, who can give personal and practical counsel from the Bible to help the wrongdoer abandon his sinful course. The overseers can give appropriate encouragement as they monitor the progress of the one who is ailing spiritually. What a contrast to the formalistic ritual of confession practiced by churches today! Fortified by the personal assistance of congregation elders, repentant wrongdoers can gain the relief that David felt, as he expressed in a psalm: “My sin I finally confessed to you, and my error I did not cover. I said: ‘I shall make confession over my transgressions to Jehovah.’ And you yourself pardoned the error of my sins.”—Psalm 32:5.*** w93 3/15 10 Jehovah's Mercy Saves Us From Despair ***
8 Confession to God can bring forgiveness and relief. “My sin I finally confessed to you, and my error I did not cover,” sang David. “I said: ‘I shall make confession over my transgressions to Jehovah.’ And you yourself pardoned the error of my sins.” (Psalm 32:5) Are you distressed over some concealed sin? Would it not be best to confess and leave it so as to receive God’s mercy? Why not call the congregation elders and seek spiritual healing?
If God's Spirit is filling a Kingdom Hall, how is it that Satan can manuever the ones within that Kingdom Hall at the same time?
i recently received an alert from norton anti virus that file c:\windows\tempory internet files\conrent.ie5ktin81.2f\vcounter[1].htm was infected with a trojan horse.
i tried to repair but couldn't so i quarantined it and attempted to submit to symantec research centre......they didn't want it saying it was non repairable, they knew about it and to delete the file and replace if necessary eeeeerrrrr ddddooooo.
i sent it anyway because i didn't want it either and i'm not sure i'm capable of deleting the file.. so anyway, quarantine is now showing empty and a recent scan of my hard drive is clean.
Here is a link to a really great Trojan Remover program. http://www.simplysup.com/tremover/
You can download it and use for a trial basis for free. I used it a few years ago and it cleaned a trojan right out of my computer.
If God's Spirit is filling a Kingdom Hall, how is it that Satan can manuever the ones within that Kingdom Hall at the same time?
i have been wondering, just how many of us here started looking into the injustices of the wtbs after being disfellowshipped.
did some of us look here in order to justify our anger because we were ousted.
did some have hatred right away or was it gradual?
Well, FatCat, I saw the injustices and felt them before leaving. I did not come here to justify any wrongdoing, as the only thing I could be accused of doing wrong was to flee the Watchtower. I DA'd myself.
I came here to hear what others saw, did and felt and discovered that many of us have been hurt deeply and wronged by the Watchtower and it's appointed representatives. The Watchtower would readily encourage any of us to leave another religion for enduring exactly what was dished out by the Watchtower.
I have now come to believe there is no true religion and that all fall well short of doing Gods will, even though they all claim to. As I have said many times before, love is the true sign of a disciple of Christ and I haven't seen it in any religion, least of all the Watchtower.
My outrage is that they condemn others for doing even less than they themslves are doing.
If God's Spirit is filling a Kingdom Hall, how is it that Satan can manuever the ones within that Kingdom Hall at the same time?
http://www.watchtower.org/library/w/1995/11/1a/article_01.htm .
i had memories come back after an operation at 14...they are lacking detail to say the least, but does that mean i didn't experience it?
it's a repressed memory that can't be trusted!
That is a hard one, Vi. Some repressed memory is proven to be faulty, while others are real and actual. No one can really tell which it is and I feel each case should be taken by itself and looked at. In your case, it sounds very real and should have been dealt with.
No one should just issue a blanket statement insinuating that all may be faulty or invented just because a few were. That is irresponsible. Each case should be thouroughly investigated by professionals, not lightly looked into by wannabes.
If God's Spirit is filling a Kingdom Hall, how is it that Satan can manuever the ones within that Kingdom Hall at the same time?
http://www.deathclock.com/.
sadistic friday, april 18, 2003 .
pessimistic monday, april 3, 2023 .
When I tried Sadistic, I discovered that I had died back in 1985. Did someone forget to tell me and all my time with the dubs just a post death nightmare? Maybe I went to hell????? ROFLMAO.
If God's Spirit is filling a Kingdom Hall, how is it that Satan can manuever the ones within that Kingdom Hall at the same time?
for those new ones who haven't read my cousin's story, i am posting the link here again.
http://www.exjws.net/shunning/sharonkennedy.htm.
today, i received a very nice inquiry about sharon, and whether this all was true.
What a sad story she told, Marilyn. She sounds like she was wonderful cousin and friend to have grown up with. Be happy that you had each other. Love and friendship as that is rare today.
If God's Spirit is filling a Kingdom Hall, how is it that Satan can manuever the ones within that Kingdom Hall at the same time?
well today was the day of yet another special talk.
you know the ones where everyone in the world is supposed to get the same one.. anyway, i noticed very little special about this talk which was about keeping jehovahs fearsome day close at hand or something like that.. it was the standard doom and gloom but arent we lucky we have a hope kind of talk and was nothing new except for one thing.
there was no mention about the generation passing away.
Expect a tightening down, with strong emphasis placed on avoiding the internet. They won't outright ban it, of course, but maybe those real active on it will be be considered bad associations?
If God's Spirit is filling a Kingdom Hall, how is it that Satan can manuever the ones within that Kingdom Hall at the same time?
well i got e mailed another jw urban legend...er experience.
maybe you have heard it before but if not.... .
i received this great experience, well worth sharing.. .
Cough, Cough. How many ways and times does this person need to be saved from suicide? So many Urban Legends, er, experiences about saving ones from suicide.
Did I tell you about the young girl that was slipped some Spanish Fly and was eyeballing the floor shift of her boyfriends car, until I spotted her and "witnessed" to her?
I have even heard, from a well informed source, that is you see a car coming at you with it's headlights off, DON'T FLASH YOUR HEADLIGHTS to warn them. It is a new initiation for recently baptized witnesses. When someone flashes their lights, they will turn around and drive up alongside you and throw Watchtowers in your car!
I also heard of a reliably true experience about a man who woke up in a motel room one morning, after a night of heavy drinking and carousing around the bars. He met a real cute woman and although she was not scantily clad, they migrated back to his motel room. When he wasn't looking, she slipped something in his drink and when in the room, he passed out. While passed out, she sublimenally played Watchtower audio tapes all night in his ears and he woke up with an uncontrollable desire to get baptized and "spread the good news." There was even a note advising him to report to the nearest Assembly Hall the next Sunday for baptism, or he might try to kill himself and his little dog, from all the mixed emotions he would be feeling.
Hey, isn't that where this newest urban, er; experience started?
If God's Spirit is filling a Kingdom Hall, how is it that Satan can manuever the ones within that Kingdom Hall at the same time?
