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  Learn How Watchtower Uses Hypnosis book !!

  by Dogpatch in

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  just saw this on google ads.

  i think he rushed into writing this book without knowing the full story.

  what percentage of jws do you think are hypnotized by the stupid meetings?

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  I believe it...everytime I went I was put under due to extreme boredom.

  Nothing surprises me anymore...lol.

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  Its getting dull

  by KW13 in

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  i can't help thinking now that without any predictions for the end, the bad history of the society and the things its done in peoples lives, which will surely continue without it radically changing and become like every other religion (which wont happen) that the society is going to just keep shrinking.. firstly, the internet is an effective means of getting the real truth out at people.

  the society have tried to stop the witnesses having the independent spirit e.t.c all this must be getting very boring and making the average dub tired and if not, its sure to.. i spoke to my mum and i made the point that there is no real joy at the kingdom hall or any means to express it.. she said "well, people are under a lot of stress" and i noted how concerned she looked about that.. your thoughts?

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  the internet is an effective means of getting the REAL truth out at people. The society have tried to stop the witnesses having the independent spirit e.t.c All this must be getting very boring and making the average dub tired and if not, its sure to.

  Yes, and also now there were more talks given at the district conventions about the "dangers" of text messaging which is something that I do not understand as to why they frown upon it. Then it hits me....communication among the collective covertly is what they discourage. ALL should be focused and be able to NOT smell what they've been shoveling.

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  Things that still haunt you......

  by whyizit in

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  i heard a former jw lady give a talk and she said that even after leaving the wts and being a born-again christian for over 15 years, sometimes when she drives through certain neighborhoods that remind her of the homes that she used to have to go door-to-door at, she gets this pain in the pit of her stomach and that she had panic attacks for many years after.. she also said that one of her jw friends periodically calls her crying and begging her to give up her life of partying and running the bars, and come back to the jws.

  she tries to explain that she doesn't do those things, but her friend just can't grasp that she left and is still a moral person who loves jehovah.. do any of you have similar experiences?

  what were some of your biggest struggles?

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  She tries to explain that she doesn't do those things, but her friend just can't grasp that she left and is still a moral person who loves Jehovah.

  Because what they were taught is that even if one leaves the "truth"; they are immoral and loves the world. They just can't seem to let that pharaseical teaching go. This teaching is crushing to those that had the strength to leave and follow their own path in life. The cost is that their families and "friends" leave them out of "love".They in turn are not loving the ones that chose to leave, but yet in fact,are "hating" them for making up their own damn mind on what to do in their life. Then comes the hurt, the pain...the isolation, ect.

  The "us verses them" viewpoint is narrowminded and prejudiced at its best.

  "Worldy"...the very name itself is racist in its JW connotation of the word.

  What still haunts though, is the memories...memories of how things were in their life. And how those that turned their backs to them when they were at their lowest point comes back into their life..NOT to just talk shop and say that they're happy that that person is doing well, but only to "cry and beg" to comeback, so that things can be like they were.

  Conditional love....wow...

  The hurt and pain? Very mental....very annoying, like someone rubbing a two forks onto a clean china plate causing the most irritating sensation which can drive a competent person to maddness.

  This is the irritaiton that causes people to move away into another state...or to take their own life.

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  The WTS Most Awesome Tool of Indoctrination?

  by watson in

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  i say it's "examining the scriptures daily.

  " any thoughts on this?.

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  Their best tool? Joseph Goebbels ( Nazi Minister of Propaganda) told us the answer. It's .......

  repetition... repetition .... repetition.......

  Damn.... so true....and it's THAT which scares me.And then they sanitize it by calling it "Repetition for emphasis". Which for some it clearly works best when they are at their lowest point in their life...for some when it's not. It's at this point that they are open to collective reasoning and repetition of the dogma. And the selling point for them is when they come to the Hall. It's there that they see the "love" that's around them. And it refreshes them.

  We all know that this is part of the "sweet and bitter message".

  Then...the bitter message follows when they study and begin to ask questions that are within their limits to ask.

  I know because I used to set those limits.

  To this day I still hear those dumb phrases and key words that were tattoed in my brain almost everyday in some way shape or form.

  I can't believe I used to preach this to people.

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  The WTS Most Awesome Tool of Indoctrination?

  by watson in

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  i say it's "examining the scriptures daily.

  " any thoughts on this?.

  watson

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  I agree with that statement though, also....

  The one thing that HAD been affective was the knowlegde book. The collective would boast that it take a person only at the most six months to complete it, and be ready for baptism. In my most humble opinion it's the "cookie cutter" way to make witnesses. Just notice the chapters that are cited there in the book.

  And even now with the new study book that's being used now....the information that's being dispensed is even more dumbed down more than ever( remember how they would devote more time to study the seventy weeks of years?) it's more streamlined, more idiot proof.

  It just comes to show that you really don't need to be a brain to be a witness. There's NO such thing as studying anymore...there's only parroting.

  "Open your MIND, Quaid". -Quato. Total Recall.

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  show a little appreciation

  by Merry Magdalene in

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  and remind someone how glad you are they are here...(i'll start).

  jw_researcher...this bud's for you.

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  Also to those that know that showing compassion is not a weakness, but a trait of strength.

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  A LETTER FROM A JW concerning My Story on Randy's Freeminds Website

  by Terry in

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  is it your purpose to save people from living a hellish life if they become a jehovah's witness?

  you think you'll cure the world of divorce after you annihilate the jehovah's witnesses?

  what is your story?.

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  As I was reading this it became more clear to me that his response is just like those that are threatened when they are challenged in their way of thinking.

  I know because I used to think like this....

  This just shows how closed minded he is....and blind. How he's ranting, he reminds me of my brother in how HE talks to me.

  All you want them to do is to open their minds, but yet they prefer them wide shut to reality and logic. They like their box, what's inside it and see no need to poke holes in it to look out of it to see how beautiful it is to actually have "free will" to agree or disagree.

  When I was deep in the collective I saw many things, and I did'nt like it not one bit. I hated it.

  I print this hear and now...: The TRUTH left ME.

  nuff said.

  Keep making music Terry...keep giving us insipration when we listen to it.

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  What picture haunts you?

  by unique1 in

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  i saw this partially on another thread and thought it deserved a thread of its own.

  what picture from the publications haunts you or scared you as a child?.

  oddly enough i wasn't scared of the distruction pictures, i guess because i knew as a faithful little servent i would survive.

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  That book actually creeped me out when I was a little jojochan. But the one pic that scared me to tears was the one of lots wife when she turned into a pillar of salt just cause she looked back.

  How it was drawn, was just so, so creepy.

  And also how jesus was impailed on the stake. The look of pain and torture on his face and his eyes, with the blood coming down from his hands.

  And THAT was geared towards kids....no wonder I'm screwed up.

  I would NEVER do that to my child...IF I ever had one.

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  To Honor 06/06/06... Music to Burn in Hell By!

  by Nosferatu in

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  okay, so it's burn in hell day.

  although this is not really linked to this day specifically, i made an mp3 cd of music to play when we've got the fire pit going in the back yard.

  however, it's quite fitting for listening to today.

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  Ozzy Osborne, "No more tears". My fave.Mettalica's "Mater of Puppets" also one of my faves.

  Anything by suicidal tendencies, Pantera, Crowbar, Slipknot, Fear Factory, Ramstein, and oh yeah...GraveDiggas

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  A BIG Happy Birthday to our very own 06-06-06 Girl--SPARKPLUG

  by Merry Magdalene in

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  you're beautiful, you're brilliant, you're a blessing to all of us, and i'm wishing you the best birthday ever!!!!!!!.

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  To Sparkplug.....here's to a wonderful woman that gives off good vibes on this forum...

  Have a safe, wild B-DAY!!

  jojochan.