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  You can't blame The Truth anymore.

  by wanderlustguy in

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  someone related a story to me a couple of months ago over the last few days it sunk in.

  there was a time it was so easy for me to get mad and angry and virtually meditate on how the organization systematically stripped me and so many of my loved ones of their lifethe life that could have been.

  real love was replaced with a recipe of what love is, putting god first and then defining what the perception of god was supposed to be, to include a group of men directed by a corporation that decides who we can or cannot speak to, as well as who we can or cannot love in the common sense of the word.

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  streets76

  It's probably been said before: You can take the boy out of the borg, but you can't take the borg out of the boy.
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  Would you pay to meet me in person??

  by IP_SEC in

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  hypothetically

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  streets76

  Yes, if you are Patrick Simmons.
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  How Many Have Written a Book? Or Are Considering it?

  by AK - Jeff in

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  i have the budded starts of maybe 4 of them in my hard drive.

  i have been encouraged to finish them, but don't know if i ever will.

  some of my writing was cathartic in purpose, and that cathartic crutch seems less needed these days.

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  streets76

  Fun to write, hard to publish.

  "My name is Warren Grubber, I'm fourteen years old, and I burned down the Kingdom Hall."

  http://mysite.verizon.net/sgswain
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  Wheres dem bones?

  by Tyrone van leyen in

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  2. experiences

  most folks know the wherabouts of russells gravesite , but shouldn't it be harder to find,than the more recent demise of the latter day presidents?

  i have never come across where my favorite guy, big joe,aka "da jugde" lies.

  i know he was hated at bethel by many and ,even his own kids hated him.

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  streets76

  Hey Ty,

  At the end of chapter 6 of Barbara Grizzuti Harrison's Visions of Glory: A History and a Memory of Jehovah's Witnesses , there is this:

  "I worked, the summer of 1953, at the Watchtower cannery in Woodrow, and I never knew Rutherford's grave was there. For all his public exposure, the private man remained mysterious, remote, inaccessible. His grave is unvisited."

  http://www.exjws.net/vg.htm
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  Know thine enemy - Does the Watchtower underestimate us?

  by truthseeker in

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  with all the recent changes in the society, it seems that they are agressively responding to information leaks.

  watchtower to be a private edition only with study articles and

  a public edition without study articles

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  streets76

  It's interesting, I visited my mother this past weekend, and she started filling me in on all the "news," the change in the WT, the public talk being 30 minutes, the borg pulling stuff out of Brooklyn, etc, stuff I already knew but didn't let on. Then I asked her if she knew about the recent sex abuse settlement payout. Well, THAT was news to her. She seemed somewhat shocked, but not really bothered by that. I've never mentioned the UN scandal to her.

  She mentioned that next year's dates for the DC were not announced at this year's DC, so many are speculating that the borg might think the end is really, really near -- so near there's no need to plan the 2008 DCs. I laughed and said, "Well, it's about time!"
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  What's your take on "faith healing" ...

  by Frequent_Fader_Miles in

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  does it really happen, or is it a fake?.

  know anyone personally who was cured by a faith healer?.

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  streets76

  If you think it works "sometimes," how come it NEVER works for amputees?
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  How much control does the WTS really have?

  by dozy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a theme regularly running through ex-jw / apostate posts is their conviction that the worship of jws is at best of a high control basis or at worst exhibits cult-like tendencies , so they often delight in the freedom that they now enjoy.. but in reality , how much control is exhibited on the average witness?

  to take one example , at least 40k are dfd in an average year , and one would assume 3 - 5x this figure are reproved privately or publicly.

  that means that over a 10 year period 20% - 25% of jws are seriously flouting the strongest moral code of jws , usually for immorality , emphasized in wt after wt , meeting after meeting.

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  streets76

  A JW friend of mine recently boasted that he's been a studier of the Bible for more than 30 years. I called him on it, pointing out that reading WT literature can in no way be confused with legitimate Bible study. He couldn't (or wouldn't) say which gospel is considered by scholars to be the first one written. He couldn't (or wouldn't) say which Pauline letter is considered by scholars to be the very first Christian document. He finally admitted that he was, at best, a casual Bible reader. The sad thing is, this admission didn't seem to bother him. He's based his entire life on rigorous Bible study casual Bible reading and WT literature (exclusively), and it doesn't seem to bother him.
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  How much control does the WTS really have?

  by dozy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a theme regularly running through ex-jw / apostate posts is their conviction that the worship of jws is at best of a high control basis or at worst exhibits cult-like tendencies , so they often delight in the freedom that they now enjoy.. but in reality , how much control is exhibited on the average witness?

  to take one example , at least 40k are dfd in an average year , and one would assume 3 - 5x this figure are reproved privately or publicly.

  that means that over a 10 year period 20% - 25% of jws are seriously flouting the strongest moral code of jws , usually for immorality , emphasized in wt after wt , meeting after meeting.

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  streets76

  The rank and file eventually lose the DESIRE to think. It doesn't even occur to them as an option.
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  Of dubs, chickens, eggs

  by streets76 in

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  reading the recent thread concerning the crazy things that have happened at the kh, i have to ask: do families become dysfunctional because they are dubs, or do they become dubs because they are dysfunctional?

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  streets76

  Reading the recent thread concerning the crazy things that have happened at the KH, I have to ask: Do families become dysfunctional because they are Dubs, or do they become Dubs because they are dysfunctional?
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  speaking to a New Testament class, suggestions wanted

  by streets76 in

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  i work in the information department of a small private college.

  the professor of religious studies has asked me to come to his survey of the new testament class and talk about jehovah's witnesses -- what they believe, what it was like growing up in the movement, ect., whatever.. so what do you think i should share?

  what approach should i take?

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  streets76

  I work in the Information department of a small private college. The professor of Religious Studies has asked me to come to his Survey of the New Testament class and talk about Jehovah's Witnesses -- what they believe, what it was like growing up in the movement, ect., whatever.

  So what do you think I should share? What approach should I take? Any suggestions would be appreciated.