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  How can I put a lid on this instant RAGE?

  by sass_my_frass in

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  2. friends

  ugh, okay, here's the story: i've been doing quite well, but today i heard about a good jw friend who now shuns me.

  at first it sounded like he was feeling remorseful and wanted to get in touch again.

  *buzzz* wrong!

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  wozadummy

  Well that went well did'nt it? sorry

  Sass ,sorry to hear of your problem but maybe just remembering how decieved they are will help you gain a better perspective of things.

  I also think DB1974 has a point
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  How can I put a lid on this instant RAGE?

  by sass_my_frass in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ugh, okay, here's the story: i've been doing quite well, but today i heard about a good jw friend who now shuns me.

  at first it sounded like he was feeling remorseful and wanted to get in touch again.

  *buzzz* wrong!

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  wozadummy
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  YOUR LAST MEETING.........................

  by vitty in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ........................at my last meeting, the elder was talking about 1975 and said "it never happened, it is appostates using a time when (some) brothers took the info in the wt wrong"...................i just blinked and finally woke up.. i had been on this site lurking for a couple of weeks, and realized thing werent right, but to have some creep say on the platform " it didnt happen"............when this ruined my and my siblings childhood, just made me snap.

  on the way home, i told my hubby "that was the last meeting im going to"................boy was he pleased.. .

  so if you didnt get df ......................what happened at your last meeting.?.

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  wozadummy

  Sorry for the pain some feel.

  Last October for us ,looking across the hall at the loud voice singing of an aging ,bald pedophile ex Elder who will shake everyones hand afterwards and cuddle the kiddies with the servant body oblivious to it all.
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  New fundraising methods for the WTBTS!

  by Gill in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  young people ask ' how can i help those in need?

  awake aug 2006

  now i remember when we were jws and raising funds for a new kh, the money had to come from publishers pockets.

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  wozadummy

  SirNose

  I think he actually did put it in for all the other Elders knew about the arrangement including the secretary. And he was a nice bloke ,but it is funny how the Org has so many rules that you had to be careful not to trip over them!
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  jw's on welfare?

  by carla in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  are there many jw's on welfare or some state assisted programs?

  how do they reconcile this with being 'no part of this world' and their abhorrence of government?

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  wozadummy

  Welfare here is good and easier than some countries I guess ,so it probably has resulted in this situation....

  More than once a JW has asked to me in a social environment when meeting me for the first time.."are you an Elder Steve?"

  To which I have asked "Why do you ask?"

  And they invariably reply "Well you've got a bad back!"

  Says something about JW's in this country I think
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  New fundraising methods for the WTBTS!

  by Gill in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  young people ask ' how can i help those in need?

  awake aug 2006

  now i remember when we were jws and raising funds for a new kh, the money had to come from publishers pockets.

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  wozadummy

  Some years ago when we were going to build a Kingdom hall one of the Elders put it to the publishers discreetly that they could come to his almond orchard and pick the crop and he would donate the money to the hall fund. It was forbidden to talk about it at the meetings and the event definitely not to be mentioned from the platform.Oooo it was so naughty to talk about it at meetings . The decision was made after this to never allow an event like this again with no real reason expressed. Weird huh!
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  1914 BREATHTAKING BLASPHEME

  by DannyHaszard in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  articulator manipulator

  the "truth" is worth lying for

  breathtaking blaspheme!

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  wozadummy

  Phew is it getting hotter in here or is it just me?
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  Forgiveness the JW way -is'nt right!

  by wozadummy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for many years it troubled me the way the watchtower handled the matter of forgiveness.. from the bible we gain the insight that jehovah forgives ,and is always ready to forgive, people who approach him repentently .. but it always seemed to me that when articles were commenting on how we should always be ready to forgive others ,we had to extend it beyond even what jehovah does and try to make ourselves forgive even those that expressed no remorse over what they did to us :.

  to keep peace.

  to move ahead .

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  wozadummy

  Thanks for the comments ,they really show there is something amiss in the org.

  I think it is probably the foundation for their problems in handling people properly when problems come up. So judgementall and yet can't see their own error which leads to so many leaving dissallusioned.
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  Forgiveness the JW way -is'nt right!

  by wozadummy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for many years it troubled me the way the watchtower handled the matter of forgiveness.. from the bible we gain the insight that jehovah forgives ,and is always ready to forgive, people who approach him repentently .. but it always seemed to me that when articles were commenting on how we should always be ready to forgive others ,we had to extend it beyond even what jehovah does and try to make ourselves forgive even those that expressed no remorse over what they did to us :.

  to keep peace.

  to move ahead .

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  wozadummy

  For many years it troubled me the way the watchtower handled the matter of forgiveness.

  From the Bible we gain the insight that Jehovah forgives ,and is always ready to forgive, people who approach HIM repentently .

  But it always seemed to me that when articles were commenting on how we should always be ready to forgive others ,we had to extend it beyond even what Jehovah does and try to make ourselves forgive even those that expressed no remorse over what they did to us :

  to keep peace

  to move ahead

  to emulate God & Jesus

  to show love for the brotherhood and blah blah blah

  This always seemed unreasonable to me , to expect more from us than what even god is willing to do! When I asked others about this naturally the point was avoided.

  So let's give a scenario:

  Elder abuses with swearing and serious lies and calls a person a dishonest cheat with slander in front of 3 JW witnesses. The basis of his accusations is totally untrue and the person tries to reason with the Elder and the Elder promptly tells the person to go away and never speak to him again!

  The person goes and can"t fulfill the scriptures completely because he can't have a meeting with that Elder because he is prohibited.Person seeks help from congo overseer, meeting arranged at Kingdom hall with commitee, Elder rings person in the morning and mocks person and refuses to go to commitee as CO says he does'nt have to .

  Meeting goes ahead any way with embarrased committee and 3 witnesses who saw even worse things after the first event. Result - Elder continues even till today 4 years later gaining more prominence but still no apology. Iff a publisher did this he would be DF';d

  So how can the person be expected to forgive in these or maybe worse or even less circumstances?

  anyone help? opinions please?
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  Just thought this would be of interest to share.

  by meatloaf in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  why have such a large family?

  when we are out together we get questions like is this a school group?, are they all yours?, are you catholic or mormon?, dont you know what causes this?

  these questions give us many opportunities to share with others the hope that is in us, that children are a gift from god.

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  wozadummy

  Sorry unbeliever did I sound a bit cynical?