Posts by AudeSapere

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Very sad news - Amber Scorah

by Nicky Whitehouse in

many of you know amber scorah as the ex jw writer who wrote this very inspiring article: http://www.believermag.com/issues/20130 ... cle_scorahshe has been an inspiration to many, many people as they navigate their way through the many feelings and issues that come with leaving the jw cult.amber is also my cousin.on monday, she lost her 3 month old baby son, karl.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/07/15/ny ... .html?_r=0 understandably, she is devastated - and now facing mounting medical bills, funeral expense and more.

a foundation has been set up to help them face these costs.

AudeSapere

Tragic and Heart-breaking. I cannot imagine the pain.

-Aude.

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Disfellowshipped at 18

by asensier in

you can probably guess how this story goes.. i began dating a non-witness boy.

he knew i was a baptised witness and understood the consequences i faced for dating him.

we agreed to keep our relationship secret, which was easy considering our 200 mile distance.

AudeSapere

It is not love in ANY way, shape or form.

It is nothing less than manipulation, pure and simple.

I am so very, VERY sorry that you are going thru this. Legally an 'adult', you are only just beginning and should not have been forced away from your family at such a young and tender age. You *can* be stronger for this horrible experience, but it absolutely sucks that it was thrust on you. The act of Public Disfellowshipping should be a criminal offense. Especially for those 20 and under.

I am so sorry. Keep coming back here. You can find good support from people who really 'get' what is happening to you.

-Aude Sapere. (meaning: Dare to Know; Dare to Have Wisdom/Understanding; Dare to Think for Yourself)

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Hemopure, what has the WT and JW Org actually said on this stuff ?

by Phizzy in

on a number of threads i have seen it mentioned that the jw scam "religion" approves the use of hemopure.. is this in print anywhere please ?.

AudeSapere

When I was in Brooklyn Bethel a few months ago, there were samples of 'medical information packets' that were for the HLC to use in guiding physicians as they deal with JWs.

I am out of the org (as a walk-away believer) for over 20 years, but I do not recall hearing anything of homopure *specifically* in regular JW literature that is meant for the regular rank and file or for householders. Merely in the form of letters to elders, hospital liaison committee members and what I saw for physicians.

But I also may just be well out-of-the-loop...

-Aude.

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I wonder if you can be spiritual and religious at the same time??

by Deltawave in

ok again i would like to apologise as i did come across preachy.

i am not going to debate whether or not i am a bk as you have your opinions either way.

what i was trying to write though was my thoughts and feelings which i hope don't offend anyone on this forum.

AudeSapere

(marking to read and comment later)

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I need ideas for my hubby

by monis in

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i have been out of the org for several years.

i faded.

my husband became inactive but still believes that the jws have the truth.

AudeSapere

Maybe consider making a trip to Lake Tahoe in California this summer:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/73460001/8th-annual-south-lake-tahoe-apostafest-make-your-plans-soon-july-10th-12th?size=20&page=1

-Aude Sapere (meaning: Dare to Know; Dare to Have Wisdom/Understanding; Dare to Think for Yourself)

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unable to post a reply

by Sad Cypress in

thank you for accepting me.. i don't seem to be able to reply to posts, despite receiving my confirmation email (which i have activated).

is there a button somewhere that i've missed?.

i've been on internet forums before.

AudeSapere

Welcome to JWN! Nice to have you join us. I look forward to hearing your thoughts - once you are able to post replies.

As xanthippe said, there is a reply box a little below these comments. It's just below the bold words that say 'Have your say ... '

-Aude Sapere (meaning: Dare to Know; Dare to Have Wisdom/Understanding; Dare to Think for Yourself)

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The poor and deprived life of JW children.

by Esse quam videri in

i find it hard to believe that adults on this forum make such a big deal about not celebrating birthdays, x-mas, easter, halloween, etc, etc, etc.

i grew up as a jw kid and it actually made me feel good, being different from the other kids in school.

we went to meetings.

AudeSapere

Being a young male in a misogynistic religion and also having a non-jw dad probably tempered your experience. I was a young girl with a jw-convert dad who worked hard to climb the jw ladder of success. We had *NO* vacation - EVER. What little money there may have been for even an over-night vacation went to kingdom hall projects.

I, too, however, thought I was special and privileged. As an adult, I see my current peers who had amazing and mind-blowing experiences that far eclipsed the thrill of placing a magazine with a kind neighbor woman.

We had some good experiences as kids, but even just one real vacation to remember as a family would be a real nice memory for me and my siblings. You were lucky.

-Aude.

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Bible Students Are NOW CONSIDERED JEHOVAHS WITNESSES

by Blackfalcon98 in

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oh my, while attending one of the boasting sessions.....an elder made reference to recent changes in watchtower terminology.

of these changes, he mentioned that bible students are now considered to be jehovah's witnesses!

this shocked me, so i was wondering have anyone else heard of this new change?

AudeSapere

JW doctrine is impossible to keep straight. It's a moving target.

I clearly remember being told to *NOT* say that we are Bible Students (at the door in FS) because that is a different theologic group than us.

I wonder if the speaker really knew what he was talking about...??

-Aude.

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Do Kingdom Hall congregations communicate with each other?

by Faithful Witness in

when asked, my mom denies that they do.... do local congregations pass along gossip or reports on householders in the area?

specifically, i am wondering if they might report on (unbaptized) family members that live in other towns?.

since the abrupt ending of my bs with miss k, i have not heard from the jw's at all.

AudeSapere

People talk. Both in and out of the religion.

JWs consider themselves a united, worldwide brotherhood/family. So of course there is talk - both good and bad - about experiences in the 'field' and the various congregations.

There is not necessarily a formal sit-down meeting to 'debrief' on reports from the field but there most definitely *is* talk.

Why wouldn't there be?

-Aude.

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People's Court - Fiancee has two daughter but not married

by ShirleyW in

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part of the story on people's court this afternoon is that this women's mother wants her to baptize her two daughters in her monthers religion which is catholic, she offered that the father of both her daughters, aged 3 and 18 months is a jw and they both decided not to have their children baptized.. so, she uses the word fiancee, they have two kids and are not married, is there some new flip flop law about premarital sex now, or this guy put on the repentant act twice and was probably dfd a few times, i'm sure he's not the only one carrying on like that, but i found that part of this women's story interesting.

also glad it was mentioned on a show that draws a lot of viewers, it will probably raise some questions with nonbelievers who thought the dubs didn't carry on like that..

AudeSapere

I *just* saw that episode here in California. The woman said her 'fiance' was brought up as a JW. He is *not* a practicing JW.

She was brought up Catholic - and is non-practicing. Together, they decided to raise their children with no religion. Just Spiritual.

But apparently, maternal grandma is as big a b!tch as they come. Seems shunned the daughter and grandchildren better than most JWs I've seen...

-Aude.