AudeSapere

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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  The new orange is the same color as two of my brothers natural color. I don't they would have purposefully chosen that shade for themselves.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Apologies that my prior comment implied there are 2 patrons at the $50 level. (There might be 100; there might be none!?)

  To clarify, I really have no idea how many patrons at each level but I cannot imagine there are many at the higher levels. Likely much fewer in that category than at the lower levels. 1:1 is the best way for anyone except Lloyd to know the real number and not let others know when someone drops.

  @Tonus - 100% agree with your comments on this. Cannot imagine either side is truly enthusiastic about this perk.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  TonusOH wrote: Looks like he ended the monthly Zoom videos?
  But replaced them with monthly 1-on-1 meetings? That should go well.

  Likely so the 2 remaining patrons at this level don't know that there is only one or two of them remaining.
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  Oompahh

  by Gorb in

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  summer evening in holland, just oompahh, our friend here at this board, long gone, crossed my mind.. did not forget him 🙏.

  g..

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  RIP Oompa

  Hard to believe it's been 12 years.
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  VERY NEW AT THIS BUT LOST IN SPACE

  by stephenlettclownface in

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  i apologize if this post ends up in the wrong place.

  i have been a lurker here for several years.

  i thoroughly enjoy this site, have for years, and read something or another on this site many times a week.

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  AudeSapere

  Hello SLCF,

  So nice to have you join the 24+ years-long conversation.

  There are quite a few people on this site who have published books. All the best with your current project. Be sure to let us know when it is available.

  You wrote: "I do not know how to get around the site. If there is any type of link to a guide..."

  Not sure if these links will help you. They were useful to me.

  From the HomePage, categories can be browsed:

  Jehovah's Witness Discussion Forum | JW.Org Community Information (jehovahs-witness.com)

  The most-current discussions are found on the 'Latest' tab at the top of each page:
  

  Jehovah's Witness Discussion Forum | JW.Org Community Information (jehovahs-witness.com)

  

  For many years, LadyLee maintained the 'Best of Topics' section. It is still a treasure-trove of information and insight:
  (accessed from the HomePage): Best of Topics (jehovahs-witness.com)

  Somewhat outdated, but also much relevance, JWD FAQs (a category in the 'Best of Topics' section):

  JWD FAQs (jehovahs-witness.com)

  Also found in 'Best of Topics' setcion (sub-heading 'The Best of ... Continuing Series Threads') is Simon's 4-part story of JWD's beginning and evolution:

  SIMONs THREADS My life ... and how JWD came to be -

  Part 1 ? http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/66434/1.ashx

  My life ... and how JWD came to be - Part 2 - http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/66841/1.ashx

  My life ... and how JWD came to be - Part 3 - http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/67372/1.ashx

  My life ... and how JWD came to be - Part 4 - http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/67969/1.ashx

  Again, thank you for adding your story and perspective to the conversation.

  It's nice to have you join us.

  Aude Sapere (meaning: Dare to Know; Dare to Have Wisdom/Understanding; Dare to Think for Yourself)
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  Did you knew the Watchtower has now a Airline? Go see it here...

  by BluePill2 in

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  busy with life .

  but had to share this piece of stupidity.

  flying freely over the evil world wide web i found this image from a recent gilead graduation festival (or whatever they call the crap feast now):.

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  'Go Gilead' -?

  As in jw.org or as in Hand Maid's Tale?

  Either way, I'm not flying on that one.

  I'm guessing it is photoshopped.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  ""I dated a sex worker while I was there. End of story".

  "The Girlfriend Experience"

  WikiPedia: Girlfriend experience - Wikipedia
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Elena wrote: If you believe evolution then some go off the rails like Lloyd did as there is no moral compass anymore and this just brings results that Lloyd has - suicidal extreme unhappiness having messed up everything and anyone in your life

  I disagree - mostly.

  When I was a JW, this was similar to what I thought. 'If you believe you came from animals you will act like an animal."
  

  Then I developed a few critical thinking skills and no longer think that way.

  In fact, now I think just the opposite.

  More people seem to go off the rails when clinging to a religion that tries to control them and when they are disillusioned by whatever philosophical ideology they adopt.
  

  I personally find more people depressed and suicidal when people and institutions (religions) let them down and they do not how to get their lives on track without the outside control.

  So many of the agnostics and atheists that I've met have a much stronger sense of personal responsibility that creates a stronger moral compass than the average person. It's as if they keenly consider the cause and effect and natural progression of their own behaviors. They seem much more likely to take personal responsibility for their actions and appreciate the opportunity to hear other's views, insights and opinions. Opinions and ideas of others can be a sounding board and, if appropriate, an opening to respectfully guide further discussion and reassess their own theories - or not.

  My atheist acquaintances tend to be kinder in their interactions with others.

  IMO, Lloyd attempts to use Atheism as an excuse to let his penis lead him thru life do what ever Lloyd wants.

  Of course there are exceptions to all this but I do not believe that Atheism is the cause of Lloyd's bad decisions. Lloyd did what Lloyd often does. He latched on to something that he thought he could use to absolve himself of responsibility and then used that ideology/platform to insult and bully everyone who doesn't believe the same way.

  I do agree that Lloyd and his family may have been happier if they adopted a JW-Lite approach and stayed in the org as somewhat 'weak-in-the-truth'. However, Lloyd would have hated the diminished 'esteem' and he would have had to get a real job in the real world.

  Lloyd's current situation is 100% entirely the natural consequence of Lloyd's own words and actions.

  I do not believe an Atheist ideology was the cause. It's more like Atheism is yet another victim in Lloyd's path of (self-)destruction.

  But I'm pretty sure Atheism will survive, recover and thrive.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  For the record, Lloyd's actual assertion is that he went to Thailand to visit his Thai sex-worker girlfriend. (ed: Leaving his wife and 2 very young children behind at Christmas)

  J.Lloyd Evans on OTE with Andrew Gold (Apr 14, 2022 @ the 20.30 mark): "... I dated a sex-worker in Thailand. But this is the thing - that a lot has been said on YouTube where there's not based on anything that I've said and it's not even based on things that Kim Silvio has said. People have just raced to conclusions based on the fact that I went to Thailand..."

  @about 25:30 there Lloyd says: "... I think bullying is wrong. I've never- I've never - umm - handled bullies very well... I'm sure as hell not going to let a bunch of people who think that I should no longer exist as an activist. I'm not going to let them bully me either. It's kind of in my DNA to push back against that short of thing."

  @ about 27:45: "Those who know me well know that I actually apologize quite readily."

  ROFLOL!!

  Here's the link to the full interview:

  Ex-Jehovah Lloyd Evans refuses to apologise for scandal & threatens to SUE me | OTE Podcast 108 (youtube.com)
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  Lloyd Evans Patreoff Pool February 2024

  by DerekMoors in

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  happy new year!

  time to give us your vote for lloyd's fall from grace this month.. december 6th he was at 406. as of today, january 3rd, he's at 388. that is exactly, on the dot, where he was january 3rd of last year!

  he's lost all gains from his begging videos and reminders and tin cup waving and etc.. so, fire up the shrooms and let us know where you think flab boy will be on february 2nd.

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  Thank you both for helping me find and understand the real number of patrons.

  @Toblerone - Please put me down for 360.