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  Hook Lines or Phrases Jehovah's Witnesses Use to Control You

  by flipper in

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  to control a person, or control a group of people , any cult , including jehovah's witnesses , have to gain your trust that they are the authority on what you need to know.

  even people have been known to use these " catch phrases " to gain trust , or " hook lines " as you'd call them to gain control over groups of people or individually in their own lives.

  see if you are familiar with these phrases which empower the sender of the phrase , but demands rapt allegiance from listeners to be the " gospel truth " without challenge , which can take the listeners power away.

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  jambon1

  Brother reads scripture then says "so as we can CLEARLY see....". Aye, clear as mud right enough.
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  What's The Worst Thing An Elder or Elders Did To You?

  by minimus in

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  was there anything truly terrible??

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  I suppose in relation to others experience, mine was pretty tame. Yet the way that a couple of elders manipulated me & in one case actually bullied me just to get their own way, was IMO disgusting. I was aware of others experiences that were fairly shocking. I suppose in my own personal case it was a build up of what I felt was unscriptural conduct repeated time after time, after time. It eventually just sickens you.
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  Just got this email

  by Cindi_67 in

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  i received an email from my sister in law.

  she was relating an experience given in a talk at an assembly.

  a young couple wanted to have children, but they couldn't conceive, so they decided to adopt a child.

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  What a vile story. I mean, FFS, the child had an escape route & it got buggered up by some new JW couple. Lucky white heather or what eh? Poor sucker. As an aside, a sister asked me recently whether fostering a child would help or hinder a JW in their spiritual goals. Her answer was that it would hinder. So to hell with saving the poor buggers & giving someone a better life. It might interfere with your ministry. Such blessed reasoning!
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  For those who were on restrictions: Did it bother you not to comment?

  by truthseeker in

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  i'm curious to know if not beng able to comment at meetings was something you felt badly about if you were on restrictions.. i don't comment anyway, but i hardly think not being able to comment is a "restriction" in itself.. .

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  Being on restrictions is another way of embarrasing people & making them look like children being sat with the dunces cap on. For a brother showing up to a field service group it is a challenge. Sometimes in our hall, the elder wouldn't show up & the phone would ring with said elder asking that a sister say a prayer for the group. Talk about making the brother embarrased! They treat people like kids. Mind you, more fool anyone for tolerating this treatment. It's a bit like thanking someone for spitting in your face.
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  Wife caught me on this site - have to remember to Logoff Witness 007!

  by Witness 007 in

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  2. experiences

  my wife burst into the computer room and found me {gasp} talking with apostates on this site!

  now she doesn't go witnessing anymore and only very rarely goes to a meeting...but talking to apostates is not on!

  i quickly closed down but had to log-off later so she doesn't find out that iam "witness 007.

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  I have tried to educate my wife in this area. I will only call these websites & forums 'ex-witness' sites, not apostate websites. The society have used a word to strike the fear of god into people. You have to try to undo the stigma. I always mention that these are people in a position similar to me. It sort of lessens the blow.
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  Did you ever see a brother so keen to be a CO that it was painfull to watch

  by jambon1 in

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  climbing the jw ladder is so important to some of the zealous, childless, jw couples.

  to reach the goal there seemed to be untold amounts of political intrigue, arse licking & generally being a pious knob end.

  loved by few, hated by most.

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  jambon1

  Climbing the JW ladder is so important to some of the zealous, childless, JW couples. To reach the goal there seemed to be untold amounts of political intrigue, arse licking & generally being a pious knob end. Loved by few, hated by most. Any experiences of such conduct?
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  My conversation with a Born Again.

  by yourmomma in

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  i spoke with a born again today.

  i am wondering if this person represents how they all think or just some.

  i'll assume just some.

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  I dof my cap to anyone who believes this stuff & still wants to worship 'it/him/her/god'. It's worth remembering that the OT AND the new testament are loaded with pronouncements against non-believers. Scary stuff if you don't remember that it is only milleniums old b/s written by people in caves.
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  Were the Cananites evil or were they simply destroyed for their land?

  by jambon1 in

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  from the jw's/bible standpoint, was there good reason for 'god' to wipe out the cananite nation or was it just to give the jews the promised land?

  please help me with this one if you can.

  thanks.

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  From the JW's/bible standpoint, was there good reason for 'god' to wipe out the Cananite nation or was it just to give the jews the promised land? Please help me with this one if you can. Thanks.
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  From Rutherford -2008 Watchtower ="dont have kid's till after Armagedon!"

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  yes i thought rutherford's policy on kid's was dead and the society had wised up....until i read the new "witnesses only" watchtower study magazine...compare.. rutherford's last book "children" 1942 = p.281 "wait until after armagedon to bring children into the world...it is only afew years before the other sheep are gathered to the lord, until armagedon...those with infants during armagedon will have greater woe...it would be a far greater difficulty to care for them during the tribulation.".

  watchtower 2008 april 15 p.19 {picture of a middle aged couple witnessing with question: why do some christian couples decide not to have children?

  } paragraph 12 "single or childless for a noble purpose.....numerous couples have decided to remain childless....they often do so to remain freer to serve jehovah...they are willing to place kingdom interests above some of the privileges that go with marriage...jehovah will not forget their work, and the love they show for his name...there will be a great tribulation...doubtless, it will be a difficult time for all of us-adults and children alike.".

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  It's sad that some choose to follow this b/s advice. What happens when they become old & ill like all the other WT generations of 'hopefulls'? It might dawn on them that they were silly to be lead by the ideas of men.
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  Appalling Mind Control Comment from CO

  by betweenworlds in

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  i just came across this comment by someone from a group i belong to .

  we just had the visit of our co...his wife made this comment to me:.

  "'as i was reading the very powerful articles in the last public issue of the wt with study articles...i couldn't help but imagine that the brothers are waving a goodbye to people!'...

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  jambon1

  All of these kind of comments got me thinking when i was a JW. It took time & I confided in no-one regarding my thoughts about what was said from the platform. For certain JW's, it is stuff like this that simply chips away at their 'spirituality'. Anyone worth their salt eventually realises that stuff like this is out of order. Bring it on I say.