Aaaaaaaaaah. Sounds like them.
In one way or another, they get you right by the balls!
jambon1
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Letters to your new cong. Do they still do that?
by jambon1 ini recently heard that they had to stop forwarding a letter to a publishers new cong because some (apostates & murmerers, spiritually weak, too concerned with themselves not god, blah, blah, blah) were taking them to court for defamation of character.
is this true?
have you ever had/seen a bad letter?
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Welcome, broken_wolf!
by cruzanheart ini'm glad you finally started posting -- i know everyone here who hasn't met you will love you and those who have met you already appreciate you, even if you didn't take part in the moon party on my front lawn last saturday!.
for those of you who don't know, broken_wolf is my dear friend margaret, the brilliant editor and graphic designer of brian mcglothin's book "have you seen my mother?".
even though she was never saddled with the burden of being a jw, she appreciates what we've all been through and admires the courage it takes to walk away from such a high mind control group.
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Indeed, welcome!
How did she feel when she found out what happens in the org?
Most people I tell are agast & appalled to say the least!
J
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Letters to your new cong. Do they still do that?
by jambon1 ini recently heard that they had to stop forwarding a letter to a publishers new cong because some (apostates & murmerers, spiritually weak, too concerned with themselves not god, blah, blah, blah) were taking them to court for defamation of character.
is this true?
have you ever had/seen a bad letter?
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I recently heard that they had to stop forwarding a letter to a publishers new cong because some (apostates & murmerers, spiritually weak, too concerned with themselves not god, blah, blah, blah) were taking them to court for defamation of character.
Is this true?
Have you ever had/seen a bad letter? (ex elders)
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Anger over disfellowshipping
by jambon1 ini have now spoken with a couple of worldly people regarding the practise of disfellowshipping.
having been out of the org for a few months i now feel confident enough to expose the things that i knew were wrong.
d/f was one of the biggest issues i had.
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REALLY, HAVE YOU READ SOME OF THE SHUNNING ON THESE THREADS?
Hi Mate Unusual that such on old thread gets raked up! Doing some research? To your point: In my own case and in the case of many, I have not been d/f`d and yet as I pass some JW`s in my car from day to day, they refuse to wave to me 'just in case' I am d/f`d. I have done nothing wrong. I no longer believe the truth. Even though I took a fair few kick up the balls when I was in the org, I harbour no real resentment. I would never shun a single soul. That includes the self-righteous, pious ball kickers. However, I would remind you that some have been treated terribly in an org that sets itself up as the haven of peace, the hiding place from the wind etc. (if you care to take the time, you will see the experiences too). That is why some may react angrily. This board lets people vent feelings that would otherwise be kept inside. In my own case, I was going through mental torture. As you know, the truth is not an open forum which offers support to people who have a real reason for doubts. I had all my doubts years before coming on here. The forum merely showed me that I did`nt 'lack faith' or was 'weak'. I was`nt even bad. I was simply not a person suited to the JW lifestyle.J
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The Point of this Site?
by Samael inforgive me if i sound rude or this question has been answered elsewhere, as i am a neophyte and discovered your site through google in my religious studies.
from reading the various posts it seems that this site serves nothing more than an iconoclastic purpose.
was your experience as jw's so traumatic that now you can but put forth such effort to daemonize the religion?
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jambon1
I never was physically abused in the org but the mental torture of being an orphan in the truth & anticipating the day in which all you love & care for will meet a violet & destructive end traumatised me personally. I soon realised that I was`nt good enought to survive armageddon.
Now I no longer believe a word of this insane bullshyte.
I realise this is not the case everywhere but in most cases the mental prison that you are in, is indeed hard to bear.
J
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JoJo's Story...Part Deu
by kittyeatzjdubs inwhen we were living in grenada, i developed the bad habit of cutting myself on a regular basis.
it was interesting how i got to that point.
i was doing things that any other normal 13 or 14 year old girl would be doing, having crushes, kissing boys, cussing at school, listening to ''objectional music''....i know now that those were all normal things, but at the time i was sure i was doing wrong and needed to be punished for jehovah to forgive me.
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jambon1
Reading with interest & concern.
Much care & love,
J
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Hypocrisy
by 5thGeneration inwondering everyone's best hypocrisy stories.. one of many for me is an elder who told me he doesn't think gambling is wrong and smoking the "odd" cigar is fine.
beauty!.
in a local cong.. any good stories?.
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jambon1
Witnesses who would benefit from worldly families lottery wins. Nope, no problem with it if it benefits them. Unrighteous riches or something.
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Anger over disfellowshipping
by jambon1 ini have now spoken with a couple of worldly people regarding the practise of disfellowshipping.
having been out of the org for a few months i now feel confident enough to expose the things that i knew were wrong.
d/f was one of the biggest issues i had.
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I have now spoken with a couple of worldly people regarding the practise of disfellowshipping.
Having been out of the org for a few months I now feel confident enough to expose the things that I knew were wrong. D/F was one of the biggest issues I had. The funny thing is, I never was D/F`d or had a close relative d/f`d. But I just felt the absolute injustice of it. As soon as my beutiful kids were born I just knew that I could NEVER treat my own flesh & blood in such a cruel manner over some of the trivial 'sins' that they may have comitted in the future.
Anyway, I have spoken in detail as to how it all works & the effects that it has on people. One person just sat stunned as I explained what happens. I did this in the fairest way that I possibly could. No hate or malice. I just told the facts. This person, I believe, was absolutely shocked that this happens regularly to people all over the civilised world. He was preofoundly effected by what I told him, & saddened. He too is a parent.
The other person again sat in shocked disbelief. At the end of our discussion I highlighted how I just could not have treated my own family in the required WTS way. She agreed and said the words "I`d rather rip my heart out".
I now feel anger that I ever bought into such an unloving organisation. I feel that you dont really learn in the 'bible study arrangement' just how the d/f law is practised. Its not until you see time after time just how cruel & unloving it really is. I have known a mother who looked like her soul had been ripped out because one of her kids was d/f``d. She just always looked lifeless. Some say that the eyes are the window to the soul. Its true that you can tell a lot from the eyes of a person. Well, this sister never had a soul left to look at after all the emotions she had obviously gone through.
I suppose she had had her `heart ripped out` just like my friend said.
Bastards.
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Im annoyed about this
by jambon1 inhaving been out of the org for a while now i have come to realise that when you think about certain viewpoints/activities of jw`s, it can really make you annoyed/upset/angry/laugh etc etc.
one thing that is pissing me off right now and has done for a while, is their attitude towards 'the worlds selfish pursuits'.
how often did you hear that those who seek an education to get a good job are 'seeking glory for themselves' and are doing the wrong thing.
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jambon1
My M-i-L just remained silent when I asked her why she didn't encourage her son and daughter to go to college.
Yes, you will realise that they will fall silent over many questions because they are embarrassed to answer.
Like they question; 'say, do you believe that EVERYONE will die at armaggeddon? Even little children??'
- As someone once sang, silence is golden!
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Im annoyed about this
by jambon1 inhaving been out of the org for a while now i have come to realise that when you think about certain viewpoints/activities of jw`s, it can really make you annoyed/upset/angry/laugh etc etc.
one thing that is pissing me off right now and has done for a while, is their attitude towards 'the worlds selfish pursuits'.
how often did you hear that those who seek an education to get a good job are 'seeking glory for themselves' and are doing the wrong thing.
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Having been out of the org for a while now I have come to realise that when you think about certain viewpoints/activities of JW`s, it can really make you annoyed/upset/angry/laugh etc etc.
One thing that is pissing me off right now and has done for a while, is their attitude towards 'the worlds selfish pursuits'. How often did you hear that those who seek an education to get a good job are 'seeking glory for themselves' and are doing the wrong thing.
When I sit and think about this it annoys me. When you think about the jobs people do that really make a difference in society, how can these people be called 'glory seekers' or 'selfish'??
People who help feed the homeless, doctors, those who assist drug adicts, those who care for the elderly, those who wipe up the shit and sick of a dying cancer sufferer & make them comfortable, firemen,..........the list goes on.
How can the role of these people be downplayed? These are essential to the society we live in. Yet the WTS would have us believe that instead of carrying out these jobs, we would be better off knocking the doors of empty houses! Tell that to the old man who gets a bowl of soup & some bread from a charity worker helping the homeless.
The more you think about some of these things, the more you question why you were ever part of such a selfish, uncaring, judgemental, wacko organisation.