When I was in, I always heard people bitching about otehrs. HOWEVER, since leaving the org, my wife will hear no wrong about the brothers. Even ones that we previously used to 'slag off' together are now, apparently, not that bad. She is on the defense all the time about the org and the people in it. Sad.
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JW's use Rose colored glasses to see each other.
by The Lone Ranger inhave you ever noticed how jws look at each other through rose coloured glasses.
no jw can do any wrong in the eyes of other jws.
even when its obvious that a jw has done wrong, they are always righteous to other jw"s, as long as a jw gos to meeting and does field service then he must be right with god and therefore must be right in the eyes of others jws.
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I was having a discussion with my JW roomate and I need some HELP!!
by oppgirl63 inwe were talking about things and she said she can't understand why i don't believe in god.
i told her that the god she worshipped is going to destroy innocent children at armegeddon.
she said that's not true...they don't believe that.
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Filth
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Show The Love....
by saywhat29 inokay i think everybody here understands anger, sadness, and fear, but you know.... this is going to be the strangest thread ever, might be even out of place but.... what are some of the things you miss and/or love about your family and friends, yes the jws ones.
because only people who you love like hell can put a deep cut into your chest like that.
and no i don't think this is a jw apologist kind of thread, at least i don't think so because acknowledging the horrible stuff people do to you (us) doesn't mean that we have to forget about all the positive things and good qualities of a person.. like my mom for instance.
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BFD - God that is awful. What makes people turn like this? When I think about the way I succumed to their manipulation, I am fairly surprised at how I just took it all. It was like a different person. Maybe your mum is the same, maybe things will change for you. I dearly hope so.
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Can you be grateful for the lives of your kids but not grateful to god
by jambon1 inthis may or may not make sense.. i am an atheist.
i have issues with there not being a creator because of the beuty of life and especially my children.
but, for me, their are just to many negative things about 'creation' to be 100% about this belief.
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Thanks for the replies guys. I concur with most of the thoughts mentioned here.
Minu - My heart goes out to you. This is the kind of way that I reason things. Most things in life seem so unjust. My wife says that I am too introverted. Always thinking about my own situation and not seeng the 'bigger picture'. I disagree.
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Post your photos time!!!
by dobbie ini don't think we've had one for a while, i can't find the last one anyway!
so just to satisfy my curiosity it would be great to see some of your photos, of you, your family even your pets (they're family too!
) then i'll know if any of you do look like your avatars cos that's what i'm always wondering!
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Ninja mate, your wee boy look so like you. It is uncanny!
Hope you doin fine and all the fam.
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Show The Love....
by saywhat29 inokay i think everybody here understands anger, sadness, and fear, but you know.... this is going to be the strangest thread ever, might be even out of place but.... what are some of the things you miss and/or love about your family and friends, yes the jws ones.
because only people who you love like hell can put a deep cut into your chest like that.
and no i don't think this is a jw apologist kind of thread, at least i don't think so because acknowledging the horrible stuff people do to you (us) doesn't mean that we have to forget about all the positive things and good qualities of a person.. like my mom for instance.
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This is so difficult.
On the one hand, I am so bitter about their hideous beliefs and the fact that I let them manipulate an otherwise strong character for 10 years.
On the other, I took some positive things from the JW practices. Not the beliefs. They almost twisted my mind into suicide. But the practices gave me confidence.
I have some (few), good friends in the org. You know, folk that are an inch away from jacking it all in. Folk that you would have a great night with if they were able to say what they wished and do as they felt. Instead, when I am with them, it is all so stayed and guarded.
I mourn some (a few) real friends that I had over the years. The rest can beat it.
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Can you be grateful for the lives of your kids but not grateful to god
by jambon1 inthis may or may not make sense.. i am an atheist.
i have issues with there not being a creator because of the beuty of life and especially my children.
but, for me, their are just to many negative things about 'creation' to be 100% about this belief.
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This may or may not make sense.
I am an atheist. I have issues with there NOT being a creator because of the beuty of life and especially my children. But, for me, their are just to many negative things about 'creation' to be 100% about this belief. There are many nice things in 'creation', like a butterfly, but there are also worms which were 'created', that will bore into the eye of a wee boy sitting on a river bank in Africa which will cause river blindess. You get my point? Floods, earthquakes, etc, etc.
Now, my JW wife feels that there is a creator. She says that she feels so grateful for the life of our children that she has to 'give something back' to Jehovah. She owes it to him. She insists that mainly because of the lives of our children, she will always remain a JW. Forever.
But I too am grateful for the lives of our children. They are truely the love of my life. But who do I owe my gratitude to? According to my own beliefs, no-one. Yet, I still feel priveliged and somehow grateful for having them in my life.
Am I confusing anyone? Do any other atheists have similar feelings?
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My Dating horror= You can't have coffee at the mall without a chaperon???
by Witness 007 inbeing a pioneer/servant for years, i thought i was very responsible.
when dating a sister whom i later married, i read every publication on courtship the society had.
i then spoke to an elder whom i thought was "resonable" and we agreed as the publications say: "a couple can meet together in a public place, when courting, without a chaperon.
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Jehovah's Witnesses have a strange, almost perverted interest in the lives of those in their congregation. I have never met a more outrageous, gossipy set of fuds in my entire life.
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They have even taken away the tooth fairy
by jambon1 ini have just ben told by my jw wife that my daughter will not be able to get a penny for her very 1st wobbly tooth, presumably because the belief in fairys may be damaging to her.
on the other hand, it is ok for 100 adults to discuss in front of my wee 5 year old, matters relating to oral sex in a sunday morning wt study.
absolute bastards.
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Just to clarify. I thought that the tooth fairy was up to the individual family. Some do it, some don't.
But I suppose for myself, it is the 1st time of things happening in my kids lives. My wee girl is 5, she has a wobbly tooth. Now I wasn't brought up a JW and I got the friggin tooth fairy. It is just one of those cute little things that you do with your kids.
My JW wife says that she won't be getting the tooth fairy. Its not 'appropriate' for JW`s apparently.
Now guys, I know all of this sounds really petty but this particular thing has just gotten to me.
WTF is wrong with indulging a childs imagination? They have actually managed to remove every exciting facet of a childs upbringing and replaced it with dull shit theocratic activities and sphagetti mind salad.
Its the double standard of it all. - "Oh, no. You can't get the tooth fairy, but you can come to the boring meetings at the KH and listen to adult discussion about paedos, death, sex and all sorts of other bullshit".
I'm pissed off with it all!
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My thoughts
by Akira infirst, let me introduce myself.
i am a spanish speaking woman, 2nd generation jw, who lives outside the united states.
so, please forgive if i make mistakes in my writing.. .
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Welcome. You don't have to be bitter. Just keep examining with an good honest mind and be true to yourself. It will get easier. Keep asking questions. It's what the WT asks us to do regarding false religion.