Wecome mate! You will undoubtedly put your relationship under strain. After 2 years, things have only evened out for my wife & I recently. We have had some very rough times. Actually, I can't see any method of leaving which would avoid this. The fact is that your wife & indeed yourself will want to talk about your stand/views. Talking about the org to an active jw ALWAYS leads to heated exchanges in my opinion. So, it is best to eventually let things lie & say very little about it. After a long time, my wife has accepted my lifestyle & my views on the org. It has taken a long, long time though. Good luck with it. Best, J.
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What do you do when you exit and your wife stays in?
by Quirky1 ini have recently left the wts and almost have my da letter ready to send.
my wife is still in and is higly upset by my stand.
she is afraid she'll lose her parents because they are still jw's and refuses to leave the wts, she still beleives it.
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Thinking of becoming a Witness again and my reasons for doing so :(
by reniaa ini've been a faded jw for 10 years i left because of my failed first marriage, i'm no hypocrite and realised i had left completely so i embraced the world and dived in, only christmas and birthdays i could not get into, they were too foreign to me having never celebrated them, like if i suddenly tried to do ramadan or something like that.. 1/ all the criticisms of the people in the truth you say on here, i've found in the world, warts and all only in the world nothing holds them back from being utterly horrible to you.. 2/ i got stabbed by a worldly boyfriend, i got married 2 times of my own choosing to men outside the truth, the first smoked and was an alcoholic, the second gambled every penny we had and defrauded me out of money after we separated, 2 divorces later i am currently pregnant and a single mum since current boyfriend decided kids was to much of a responsibility and he needed his freedom and i was 'too selfish to expect him to give up his life'.. 3/ parents-in-law!
i have been shunned by them as equal to anything you accuse witness families of and for the silliest of reasons, i had a disabled son and his grandparents said they wanted nothing to do with him because they didn't want to become attached in case he died.. 4/ i miss the honest friendships of the truth, i had friends of all ages from 14 to 80 years old and they genuinely cared for me, many trying to keep me in the faith a long time after i left but i was determined to fade so moved away completely, but i find friendships in the world so shallow in comparison and very hard to sustain :( i've never been a drinker and sometimes thats what friendship means you being a companion for them to goto pub with.. 5/ my recent boyfriend was in a christian religion, i thought why not find out about it, harvest churches if you ever heard of them, unfortunately it still hasn't stop him leaving me pregnant and alone and when i said to him how does he clear that with god, he replies "as long as i repent it doesn't matter" it's like he has a "get out of jail free card" for any wrong-doing in the bible, this is so alien to me and my witness trained conscience.. 6/ i recently out of frustration tried looking into atheism and joined their forums, it wasn't fun, they are as bombastic and arrogant as their religious counterparts can be from any religion, they make a religion out of not believing in god, it's very weird they talk of saving people from believing in god and offer nothing to replace it.
they said to me "be happy you are in reality now and enjoy it" and i thought "well if this is reality i've had enough of it".
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Welcome! "Warm hearted witnesses"? They believe that 6 billion people deserve to die so that THEY can enjoy a 'paradise earth'. Doesn't sound too warm hearted to me. In fact, it sounds selfish in the extreem. It's sad that you have had so many negative experiences in the world. Personally, I found better friends in the world. However, you must decide what is right for you. You will always be welcome to share your experiences here. Stay & learn! Best wishes, J.
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Examples of jealousy in the congregations
by jambon1 inapart form the widespread suspicion & backbiting that goes on in the 'spiritual paradise', i have also known of many, many cases where an individual or cliques have became terribly jealous of another jw/jw couple etc, for whatever reason.
examples are bountiful.
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jambon1
Apart form the widespread suspicion & backbiting that goes on in the 'spiritual paradise', I have also known of many, many cases where an individual or cliques have became terribly jealous of another JW/JW couple etc, for whatever reason. Examples are bountiful.
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Need some advice
by KICKED OUT ini have not been on here in a long time but i have always valued the advice of everyone, so here goes.....i am dfd and my wife has never been a part of the org.
we are getting ready to have our first child in may.
my mother who is now living in patterson(at one of the motherships) speaks to me every 1 to 2 years.
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PS - just read the email reply. Only a Jehovah's Witness could utter the words, in relation to a newborn etc, "it was nice but also sad". Christ almighty, can they hear themselves?
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Need some advice
by KICKED OUT ini have not been on here in a long time but i have always valued the advice of everyone, so here goes.....i am dfd and my wife has never been a part of the org.
we are getting ready to have our first child in may.
my mother who is now living in patterson(at one of the motherships) speaks to me every 1 to 2 years.
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After kindly explaining to her your reasons why, I would tell her to get lost. Mother? This has got to be some sort of joke. I genuinely have pity for your situation. Horible.
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UK: Channel 4 - Cutting Edge The End is Nigh broadcast around late 1997
by truthseeker in.
any of you in the uk remember watching a cutting edge documentary on jehovahs witnesses, entitled, "the end is nigh?".
it would have aired around late 1997.. it was about the lives of two couples, one a fitness instructor's courtship with a brother who was a programmer, and the other about a sister who left the truth and came back, eventually getting baptized.. the congregation involved was the abingdon congregation, located in oxford.
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Remember it being a car crash as far as JW's were concerned. The scene with the lass bringing his tea out to the car because they couldn't be in the house alone made me shit myself. God, I'm so glad I don't need to defend this crap anymore.
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was anyone ever told they would have been stoned to death by an elder?
by looloo ini was when i had an affair , but this elders pioneer daughter told me she understood why i had done it , i was feeling dreadfull and so guilt ridden but he said i should through myself at my hubs feet and beg forgiveness from him and had i lived 2000 years ago i would have been stoned to death !
the strange thing is a few years later this elder told me he had feelings for me , but he was married and old enough to be my dad , although i liked him as a person by then and had forgotten what he had said to me about being stoned to death, i was a bit annoyed that he told me not to tell anyone ,and yet was telling other people to tattle tale on others , i know he felt really bad about his feelings though and i did feel sorry for him , but asked him not to visit anymore as it made me feel guilty towards his wife , maybe it was gods way of getting him to see things from a wrong doers point of view ,as he had a reputation for being very harsh on wrong doers (like myself) maybe he makes a better elder nowadays after that insight , or maybe they think i was sent by satan to seduce a pioneer and an elder !
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I heard of one sister being called a slag & a slut by one elder on her JC. Awful!
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My life - A brief history. Part 1
by Galileo inthis post has gotten quite long so i decided to break it up into at least two sections.
i hope it doesnt come across as rambling.
i should start with a confession: it was my smurf that walked out of the kingdom hall in the early 80's.
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bookmarked. I want to read this later. Thanks.
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Can we all be a bit more pro-active in this one area? PLEASE READ...
by jambon1 inthis is something that i feel really passionate about.
i hate being labeled an apostate by jw's.
i don't like the term and even they themselves have the definition wrong according to the bible.
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Avi; I will read through that later & it seems an interesting thread. I am advocating using the term ex-jw in conversation with JW's because I have found that it has an astounding effect. Rather than telling you that "I will not listen to apostate propaganda", they seem more willing to listen to what you have discovered whilst talking with "other ex-jw's just like me". I find it works.
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Could U Please Cite Some Personal Interesting Observations About The Truth?
by minimus infor anyone that looks at this thread, could you write something either profound or simply interesting so as to make the reader see the truth about "the truth"?
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jambon1
I observe that a great many JW's seem to be very unhappy people. The constant negative teachings about the 'wickedness' & depravity in the world makes the average JW feel very insecure & unsettled. Who to trust, who to speak to, etc, etc. Add to that the fact that they are even suspicious of each other. It doesn't make for a healthy outlook. The 'do more, do more' mentality is another factor in people being unhappy & depressed. Even when I speak to JW's now, I am astounded at their negativity toward most things in life. I was never really happy as a JW. When I left I became more satisfied with my role in life. That is worth the hassle of leaving the org. 2 years ago i was going through a tough time leaving the org. Now, it seems a million miles away. Happiness reults from leaving the ultra negative WTS.