Murmurers - just another word the Watchtower has successfully demonized
DanTheMan
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Keep Free From Murmuring....Are YOU A Murmurer?
by minimus inwt.
11-15 02 states:"persistent murmurers attach too much importance to their feelings or position, drawing attention to themselves rather than to god.
if not checked, this causes dissension among spiritual brothers and hinders their efforts to serve jehovah shoulder to shoulder.this is so because murmurers invariably voice their complaints, doubtless hoping that others will sympathize with them.
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WTBTS ARMAGEDDON: From Dream To Concept To Climax!
by Derrick inwe almost danced away from the door after, to recall a scripture where jesus called his disciples fishers of men, my field service buddy was about to reel in another "marlin"!
the dream
i awoke one night from what i considered a nightmare but many of my brothers and sisters considered a dream soon to come true.
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DanTheMan
I'm jealous of the people on this board who witnessed H2O's glory days. I was sitting in the Kingdumb Hall letting my brain atrophy.
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Did One Of Your Favorite JW's Leave The Truth?
by minimus inlately, more and more people are leaving "the truth".
did anyone affect you to also consider leaving "the truth"?.
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DanTheMan
Nobody who was a "favorite". Saw many many leave in various ways over the years.
My best JW friend partially contributed to my doubting and eventual departure. He had a daughter who as a child was the model JW, witnessing to her teachers, the whole 9 yards. Well, adolescence came along and wiped all that out. She was never baptized and was definitely the rebellious teen. She left home at 18 and has never looked back. Well, to hear my friend talk about his daughter you'd think he was talking about Satan himself. It was like, he hated her for not taking to the JW way. Even though I was still a believer more or less, I often thought "Man I can't hardly blame a kid for not wanting the JW life". I couldn't believe his attitude towards her. No love.
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I was on the air today with Dr. Joy Browne
by Bona Dea ini don't know if anyone here listens to dr. joy but i love her show and most of the time agree with her advice.
well, today i grew some balls and decided to call in and ask her what she thought i should do in my current situation (which is probably the closest i will come to seeking professional advice).
i never mentioned the name of the "religious group" in which my husband was involved, but i informed her about some of the things that they believe and how it was affecting my marriage and family.
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DanTheMan
Bona,
Yes, it would be somewhere between difficult and impossible to find a middle ground with a true-believer jay-dub.
Kids need love, acceptance, and encouragement more than anything else. If you give these things to them, the details will take care of themselves. Don't hit the panic button over the JW thing, or feel like if your kids take to it somewhere along the way that it's the end of the world. They'll see it for what it is eventually. The more a JW has to fight for his religion, the more difficult it is for them to ever admit that it is not the troof. I've seen it all too many times.
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The Caffeine Double-Standard
by CaptainSchmideo inreading an earlier post about the caffeine "intervention" reminded me of this: remember lynn newton's online glossary of "theocratese"?
i remember this entry under "coffee" coffeestimulating hot black liquid, consumed in great quantity by most hard-working christians in the usa; the drug of choice for most any occasion.
one co calls it ``the elixer of life''.
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DanTheMan
I knew a few bros who would work the midnight shift at UPS, catch a couple hours of sleep and then out into the pioneer work. They consumed coffee by the gallon. It would have been easier for them to take No-Doze or something, but that would have been frowned upon I suppose. You know, the whole appearances thing is so important...
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God and children
by Shakita ini am not sure where i stand with god anymore.
my questions about his presence, or lack of, never seem to satisfy me.
is it important?
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DanTheMan
JW, Fundies, and even more liberal religionists have anthropomorphic views of God (God as an all-powerful idealized perfect human father).
God is just a word that our minds attach a meaning or form to. It's different for everyone. Who can say they know God? Did God talk to you?
There is so much we don't know. Consciousness and the physical world are things that we take for granted, but the more we learn about these things the more mysterious they become.
I'm learning to enjoy the mystery that is our existence. As a JW I lived in fear of a created god named Jehovah, mostly Rutherford's invention. I no longer fear.
It's been said that we create our own reality, and I believe that, to a certain degree.
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DanTheMan
hello and welcome Nancy Jeanne
how long have you been lurking?
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Will YOU Make Room For It? RoadTripII
by Know_You init is with a mixture of joy and sadness that mrs know_you and i depart john and eunice's sanctum of sanity.
truly their home is an enclave of peace in this mad, doomed, sybaritic world.
what a contrast to the spiritual lunatic asylum inhabited by the apostates with their shrill cacophony, their puny fists, like the men of babylon, raised in anger to their creator!
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DanTheMan
pssst...Wednesday...the post is satirical
Your new here, so you wouldn't get it...and be glad you don't, he is mimicking the psychotic babble of a WT defender that seems to have faded from this site as of late
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Circle the wagons?
by thinker ini don't read very many watchtowers or awakes, but the oct. 1, 2002 watchtower seems especially concerned with keeping jws in the borg.
pg.
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DanTheMan
Good grief
I was getting ready to eat some dinner, but that made me lose my appetite
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OK, Who Subscribes to Communism On This Forum
by Guest 77 inseeing that this forum is getting into evolution and individual theories, i would like to lengthen the envelope and ask who on this forum is willing to admit that he/she subscribes to communistic ideologies, and why?.
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guest 77
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DanTheMan
Communism a dismal failure? - yes, because of the incentive factor. Marx's vision of a grand, equal brotherhood where each gives according to his ability and receives according to his need, was embarrassingly naive.
Capitalism a rounding success? Hmmm...I guess future societies will be the judge of that.