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  Totally happy in your marriage?

  by Lost Diamond in

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  how many of you are totally, incredibly happy in your marriage?

  how many of you feel that your spouse is your absolute soul mate and you couldn't even imagine your being married somebody else?

  talking with the women at work, i'm surprised at how many are not totally happy.

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  So, what's it like having sex with the same person over so many years? Does it get better and better? And once you get into your 40's, 50's, and beyond when your looks really head south, is sex as enjoyable?

  Just curious.
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  Your favorite Witness?

  by larc in

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  who was your favorite witness?.

  mine was john richards.

  when i got to know him, he was an old man, and our theocratic ministry school servant.

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  Matt Riemenschneider was my best friend while I was in. A genuinely good guy, but a dyed-in-the-wool dub, when mama says jump he asks how high and where, never has questioned one sentence printed in the pubs.

  Dave Hodgson and Kevin Smith were good guys, Bethel-ers may know Kevin. I also liked Jim Navratil pretty well.
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  Forced Disassociations?

  by Pathofthorns in

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  an experience came my way recently that a "brother" that had not been involved for some time with the religion admitted to smoking when elders came visiting and questioning.

  failing to attend any judicial committees or show any interest in this matter, the brother was announced as having "disassociated himself" without any notice or explanation on the part of the elders 6 months after having confessed.

  he never stated that he wished to be disassociated and only expected to be disfellowshipped.. does anyone have any explanation as to why in this instance it was announced as a disassociation instead of a disfellowshipping?

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  It ties in well with the 'Baptized in the name of the Holy Spirit' thing, that you recognize that you are one of Jerhover's Witnesses in association with the Spirit Annointed org, etc.

  The thinking is that you agreed to follow the slave when you got dunked, and therefore you are disassociated by default if you go against the slave. You've broken the contract.

  I think this will become more and more common. JT had some interesting comments about this on another thread.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=34903&site=3&page=2
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  Authority and Submission in "Boston" ...

  by refiners fire in

  1. jw
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  in a thread earlier today a lady mentioned the "boston movement' as it is known.

  this movement is a splinter group from a larger recognized church, the church of christ, and the "boston" movement is now known as the "international church of christ".

  it has been labelled a cult.

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  i thought that this was such an interesting thread, especially LL's experience, but only 298 hits and completely buried now...

  so...bttt you go
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  Superman's quote 'bout JW's

  by orphanannie in

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  http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=579&e=1&cid=638&u=/nm/20020917/en_nm/health_superman_dc

  "there are religious groups -- the jehovah's witness, i believe -- who think it's a sin to have a blood transfusion.

  well, what if the president for some reason decided to listen to them, instead of to the catholics, which is the group he really listens to in making his decisions about embryonic stem cell research?

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  Xander,

  I agree. I'm sure the Jerry Falwells and Pat Robertsons in this country were dancing on the ceiling when Bush was (finally) declared the victor. (Funny how that whole debacle seems like such a distant memory now)

  Conservative religious types go on and on about the liberal media, liberal universities, blah blah, how it's a big totalitarian big-brother conspiracy.

  I've said it before, I'll say it again - if and when totalitarianism pays the U.S. a visit, it will come from the (largely religious) RIGHT, not the left.
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  PRE vs POST 1975 Field Service

  by Amazing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  reading many posts about field service over the last few years almost always reveals an almost "disgust" for the door-to-door work ... admissions by ex-jws of hating it "all along," but doing it out of pressure.

  when i first left the religion in 1992, i don't recall all the hatred of field service by ex-jws ... mostly i heard of ex-jws feeling weird not doing it anymore, or wondering if now a different message should be carried under another banner.

  myself, i never hatred the work, just began to feel it was useless.

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  Among the numerous characteristic of cults that I have seen listed is one that says you are never away from the group for more than 48 hours. Without Saturday morning service, you'd have a solid 2 day gap between Thursday and Sunday. Can't have that.

  Saturday morning book studies (followed by FS, of course) are common in my area, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if Brooklyn cracks down on these in the near future. I think it creates too many long gaps where the sheeps are away from mama's influence.

  I think Ray makes a point in one of his books that many first century Christians were slaves, which meant they worked from sunup to sundown every day, and it is highly unlikely that they were able to meet with other Christians more than once a week (probably for a meal), let alone participate in some sort of organized preaching activity. The whole "we're just like the first century Christians" bill of goods that the WT sells is such a joke, but wouldn't you know they had me totally convinced at one time.
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  Does God still exist for you?

  by nakedmvistar in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm quite new to this forum (only a handful of posts).

  but from what i've read up to now, it seems apparent that some of you have abandoned your belief in a god.

  is this because of trauma brought about by the jw religion?

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  rem,

  I hear what you're saying, and I can't fault you if you are an atheist. After all, if I was God, and I created these things called people, but never spoke to them, never gave them irrefutable evidence of my existence, only leaving them to make guesses as to my existence and attributes, and yet at the same time expected them to have unwavering belief in me, and, beyond that, have very specific beliefs about me, that, if not believed correctly, will result in my punishing them with the greatest severity...It gets pretty strange when you go down this road.

  Dan, of the wants-to-believe-but-wishes-God-would-give-me-a-little-more-to-go-on class
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  Does God still exist for you?

  by nakedmvistar in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm quite new to this forum (only a handful of posts).

  but from what i've read up to now, it seems apparent that some of you have abandoned your belief in a god.

  is this because of trauma brought about by the jw religion?

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  Whether it's a cultural thing, or whatever, I just can't quite let go of my notion that a greater being than ourselves exists. I don't agree with those who say that 'God is man's greatest invention'. (apologies to the late Eric Hoffer, a genius in many respects, but imho missed the mark with this one)

  Atheism tempts me, but - it is just too dark. Man, without religion or spirituality, is just a pack of sophisticated baboons, beating each other up and competing for dominance. I live in an urban area, where the thugz rule. I see so many young men who seem to have no concept of spirituality or God, they are so imprisoned by ego and self-concern and materialism, they are truly pitiful.

  There is no beauty or love or warmth or humility in atheism.

  All this being said, I am very leery of organized religion, and very skeptical of "true-believer" types who think they've got it all figured out.

  Religion is such a convenient vehicle for tyrants like David Koresh, Jim Jones, Joe Rutherfraud, Ted Jaracz, etc.
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  what makes you the happiest???

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we know what makes some of you the angriest, so now tell us what makes you the happiest.

  (this should be good!

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  I don't know if it makes me "happiest", but the thing that makes me laugh the hardest is seeing a dog riding in a car with its head out the window and its tongue flapping in the wind.

  Kills me every time.
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  THE LAST DOOR

  by TR in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  do you remember your "last door"?.

  it suddenly occured to me today that i had never thought about the last door that i knocked on out in field service.

  honestly, i don't remember it.

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  I don't remember the last presentation I gave, but I remember one of the last.

  A MS in our hall (he had been an elder at one time, stepped down due to his daughters fornication problems, and was working his way back up) was working with me, made me his pet project. One fine day we were out in FS together, and I got a very old man at a door, in his 80's probably. I offered the magazines, he politely but firmly declined.

  As we were walking away from the door, the bro says to me "I'd call back on him."

  I was like, WHA?