Posts by DanTheMan

....waking up to the real truth about the truth?......when it first really hit me like a shovel in the face.....i actually said to the co i would have to leave my wife and son (not hers)) and he is now 20 (not the co..my son), and i said it because i knew i would now never measure up to the "spiritual head" model.

cause i knew it was all bs...but have not really ran away yet....at least not for more than a week at a time.........doing better actually.......but did you want to at least move or something?

?...........oompa

DanTheMan

It was interesting how it all worked out for me. I had been given private reproof back in the Fall of 2001, and around the same time that occurred, a sister that I had had a brief but emotionally intense relationship with earlier in the year had started sitting with her new beau at the KH. Said beau was a new bro to the area that she totally came on to right in front of me when we were out one night. I couldn't stand to see her with him, and the elders knew about the situation (of course), and were more sympathetic to me as they didn't have much use for this sister; she had a history of scandalous behavior and had a lot of wreckage in her wake (divorces, affairs, several disfellowshippings).

And so after my JC was over, we were making some small talk, and I told them that I might start attending a different cong. They understood and even encouraged it. But lo and behold I just never got around to attending that different cong save but one time. By the time the elders figured out that I wasn't attending meetings anywhere, I was well on my way out. I also moved shortly after that, and that was that. Aside from a coworker and a couple of pass-by's at restaurants and grocery stores, I haven't seen any dubs that I used to know in the six years since I left.

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30,000 Jehovah's Witnesses to convene at Nutter Center

by blondie in

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now there is any appropriate place for jws.. http://www.daytondailynews.com/l/content/oh/story/living/religion-faith/2008/07/08/ddn070808conventionweb.html.

by khalid moss.

staff writer.

DanTheMan

Attended DC's there in 2000 and 2001. 2001 was particularly horrible, as I recall.

Interestingly my dad and his wife spent a wknd at a hotel in Indiana about a month ago, and apparently there was a dub convention nearby because they said that the place was packed out with JW's. They were surprised at some of the immodest dress and loud carrying on.

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THE REAL REASON THE US INVADED IRAQ! EURO VS WORTHLESS DOLLAR

by What-A-Coincidence in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqza5e4f11c&feature=related

DanTheMan

oh! BTW OPEC dump the dollar a few months ago. Right before the great american energy crisis.

Can you provide a link verifying this? I found a few articles from around February of this year that stated that OPEC was considering a switch to the Euro (a switch that would be spread over a number of years), but nothing stating that this has actually taken place.

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THE REAL REASON THE US INVADED IRAQ! EURO VS WORTHLESS DOLLAR

by What-A-Coincidence in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqza5e4f11c&feature=related

DanTheMan

Hi beksbks, yes, you're right. I've been poking around the internet for the last couple of hours, reading some things and watching the vids that Ip-Sec shared (great stuff, thanks for sharing!) and yes, it's not so much an increase in demand in the US for Euros that would create economic catastrophe, but the liquidation of the vast reserves of American currency held by foreign banks onto the exchange markets (far more than the US treasury could purchase by issuing bonds, as is the current practice for mopping up excess dollars in these markets) that would be triggered by a switch to Euros as the standard currency for purchasing oil, as Hugo Chavez proposed to the other member countries of OPEC back in 2002.

And as support for this conspiracy theory, it was only shortly after the invasion of Iraq back in '03 that Iraq went back to selling oil for dollars.

Ah, what tragically interesting times we live in.

Ip_sec, I especially enjoyed part 8 where he admits that his attraction to doom-and-gloom books about Peak Oil is probably because of the emptiness of his own life. Hey I resemble those remarks, LOL.

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THE REAL REASON THE US INVADED IRAQ! EURO VS WORTHLESS DOLLAR

by What-A-Coincidence in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqza5e4f11c&feature=related

DanTheMan

So, if Iraq decides to sell oil in Euros, then this causes the demand for Euros in the US to rise dramatically, which in turn causes the value of the dollar to plummet, triggering runaway inflation? Is that how it works? Sounds like a plausible explanation for the invasion to me. On 9/11 didn't Donny Rumsfeld write on a scrap of paper something to the effect of, 'find a way to pin this on Saddam'? They were obviously looking for a reason.

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If you weren't born in, how did you get in?

by ecuador in

i am not a jw, but know several, and i am curious as to why adults get involved with the jws.

any one have an answer from personal experience?

DanTheMan

I met a girl at college who had been raised by an on-again, off-again JW mom. At the time, her mom was on, and so was she. I called her one evening and she talked to me about the Witnesses for several hours. I was really floored by her enthusiasm - I had never met a religious person that was so sincere about their faith as she was. We dated for a very short time after that, and during this time she gave me several pieces of JW literature. I wasn't well-read or critically-minded, and I pretty much accepted everything in the publications at face value. I really thought that I had "found the truth" as they say. I immediately started going to the KH, and I just fell in love with it all. The JW's of the Westerville OH congregation were a very friendly bunch, and I felt so welcomed and accepted by them. About a year later I got baptized, but by then doubts had already started to creep in, but I still hung on for another 9 years, ugh. What a weird thing to have in your past.

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JWs - the Next Generation

by Olin Moyles Ghost in

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my peer group (post-1975 born-in jws) seems to approach the jw religion in a different manner than earlier generations.

now, these folks still believe the wts is "the truth" and if you say anything that sounds "apostate" they start freaking out.

but, make no mistake, these jws are not your parents' witnesses.

DanTheMan

I don't know that this is necessarily unique to the current crop of young adult JW's.

I think that of the 40% or so of born-in JW's who stick with the faith into adulthood, only about 1 in 5 is a real uber-believer (i pulled that number out of my arse but it sounded good). The rest, well, it's just what they're used to, and they don't want to lose their family, and frankly they are not deep thinkers and have no inclination towards making a declaration of independence.

These non-uber-believers were always a source of stumbling™ for me...I was so naive and idealistic when I embraced JWism, and had very little tolerance for the human-ness of it all that became ever more apparent to me over the course of my unfortunate JW tenure.

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Any Who fans?

by Dagney in

fyi, tomorrow night on vh1 there is a program honoring the who.

i'm a massive townsend fan.... "long live rock!

".

DanTheMan

I love this - Eminence Front:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URFbwUkBrjA