Hi Lani, good to see you back. Sorry to hear your hubby has been ill - hope he's OK now.
penny
hello to all, sorry i haven't been around for a while.
almost lost my hubby last year to illness so i've had limited time on the computer and just tended to log on to do the quiz.
i've just logged back into a few messages.. looking forward to catching up with everyone.
Hi Lani, good to see you back. Sorry to hear your hubby has been ill - hope he's OK now.
penny
i have been in a world of pain this weekend.. some of you know the ongoing battle i have had with my ex wife, an uber dub hypocrite, over seeing my kids more.
3 weeks ago i managed to secure an agreement from her that provided my 13 yr old daughter friday night to sunday afternoons and for my 16 yr old son to have friday night to sat afternoon with the option to extend it to sunday if he so desires.
this is each second weekend.. first due weekend visit she rearranged the days so that she was technically pre agreement start date.
Wow, that would have taken a lot of courage for your son to stand up to his mother. Unfortunately she has a mind controlling cult behind her, and you are, well, just you.
Congratulations Aussie, for taking a stand. Your kids will know you love them and really made an effort to spend time with them.
penny
hi.
does anyone remember a co from the '70s in australia called phil hayward?
he still has some tapes of his talks doing the rounds.
I also heard that talk about Jesus - if that's what's circulating, I guess he has no need to be embarrassed. The talks I was thinking of were about 1975 - very motivational in a cultlike way. But it's what he believed and he was very sincere.
He was much loved and some would be in tears when he left.
so it was that we were having another emotionally charged conversation, my parents and i. in the course of it, they condescendingly told me i wasnt happy, because i just dont look like it to them (they don't even know me anymore, as we have no real relationship-- the never-ending assumptions they make of others infuriates me to no end!!).
my theory~~~ of course df'd family and ex-friends don't look happy to them!
what they see (if they ever encounter us) is someone who is dead to them, has been publicly flogged emotionally and mentally~~~why would we fake a smile and pretend everything is normal and ok when we see them?
The cold reply was something along the lines of 'we're preparing for your eventual death
How cruel and disgusting to say this. Once you've been away from the JWs for a while those sort of comments sound ridiculous and laughable as well.
Hope you have the strength to cope with all of this.
penny
hi.
does anyone remember a co from the '70s in australia called phil hayward?
he still has some tapes of his talks doing the rounds.
Do you mean he knows these tapes are doing the rounds? He should be embarrassed.
He was a lovely person but so young. I think he was 23 when he was our CO and very much into 1975. I heard he had a breakdown in later life.
penny
i really needed to find a place to write this as i don't believe i can talk with anyone else about my account, perhaps it is similar to a lot of yours.. last night for whatever reason i said i would go online and look up information on jws.
i have been raised as a jw all my life and baptized the last few years.
i looked at www.freeminds.org and www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com and couldn't believe how easily the whole of my lifes teachings were refuted.. i can't stop my brain from running, bs just in regards to theology alone (1914, paradise earth, celebrations etc.
Welcome gutted, hope you find much support here. I faded over many years and I'm happy to still have a relationship with my JW family. For me, it was worth it. But everyone is different - don't rush your decisions and you will find your way.
penny
Personally, I would give a short response as above.
However, I feel there is no harm in ignoring them if that's what you prefer to do. At the moment they are a bit more zealous than normal because of the memorial - after that's over, they'll probably leave you alone for a while.
Then about a month after this mail, I recieve a new one: Long time no see, we really want to help you if you have some problems you cant handle. Your name is not at your door, do you still live at the same spot? Remember the Memorial on tuesday. You are welcome to call me
...bla bla bla...
Suggested response:
Problems sorted but thanks for your concern.
Regards
bohm
well, some of you know that i have a 16 year old son who lives with his jw mother.
she has already mastered the art of guilt control on him.
i am most anxious that he not get baptized at all or at least unless he has really understood the whole truth, not just the watchtower truth.
So your kids were quite happy to go to your wife's sister's house for a birthday, play with guns and then spend time making their own guns.
They probably had more fun in one weekend with you than with JW family in six months! That they enjoyed those activities??? I can't see how they're going to be happy being JWs.
i am such a placid person.
i will always turn the other cheek.
i will always be the one to yeild.
Aussie, sorry you are going through this.
Many teenagers brought up as JWs are leaving so do not lose hope. Just be there for your kids whenever you have the opportunity.
penny