I'm not embarrassed but I really have to trust someone before I'll share anything about my life. And that happens very rarely.
penny2
does anyone else find themselves embarrassed about their jw past?
i find that when people that know what i used to be ask me about it i am completely embarrassed by how foolish their beliefs sound especially things like the blood issue.
i can't stand when someone will say "why did you believe such and such....?
I'm not embarrassed but I really have to trust someone before I'll share anything about my life. And that happens very rarely.
penny2
the more i dwell on it, the more embarassed i am that i was ever a witness.
jws make big deals about nuthin'.
you can't say "bless you" if someone sneezes.
The more I dwell on it, the more embarassed I am that I was ever a Witness
Don't be embarrassed, minimus. Many organisations have their own lingo. It's all a matter of our own attitude to our past. Just think - we are not your average person. We've had lots of experiences that other people don't have. Granted - we could have done without some of them but it makes us more interesting. And you are free now!!
penny2
i know i have posted before about watch tower publications, however most of the help there directed me to ebay and other things for old copies, what i am looking for are the current copies.
here is why, most of you know that i am not a jw and am in a long distance relationship with a jw, (see other posts) he knows that i am on this site getting information along with the the watchtower site itself.
the other day we got on the religion subject again, and i asked him about the watchtower site and their using words to make things look worse than they were, right away he felt i was looking at the negative side of the jw.
My suggestion would be to ring the local congregation (there should be a number in the phone book) and let them know that you'd like someone to call with the latest magazines. As blondie said, make an appointment for this to happen. If it's someone you feel comfortable with, ask them to call and leave the magazines with you regularly.
You will make a local jw very happy. No-one is regarded as unworthy to get the magazines. Most people don't want them and the witnesses are conditioned for this. So when someone asks for publications they are overjoyed. You could stress that you don't want any further involvement and they will still be happy because they get to report the magazines as placements.
it has been discussed that the internet is bringing the wts to its knees far quicker than ever hoped for several reasons:rapid access to research of old publications through databasesanonymous nature of finding informationease of which a person can stumble accross information.
another powerful reason is interactivity with other people.
the ability to rapidly see many ideas on a board like this, ask questions and get answers allows personalisation to the individual needs of every truthseeker.
the internet is bringing the WTS to its knees far quicker than ever hoped
Hi jwfacts
I question whether this is really the case. Many witnesses I know have a computer and spend lots of time on the internet but I doubt they've ever had the courage to look at an anti-jw site. It took me ages to start looking up information even though I hadn't been to meetings for a couple of years. I constantly get info from my relatives about the local congregations and not too many baptized witnesses are leaving. Sure lots are miserable, field service has slackened off and young ones are not enthusiastic like they used to be. But the brainwashing seems to be as powerful as ever.
Where the internet does help very successfully - once you get the courage to research you can be empowered to make the break more quickly. Being able to communicate with others in the same boat eases the transition. There is also ready access to doctrinal matters so longheld views can be analysed.
I like this forum, freeminds and the quotes sites. But others respond to a different approach so I guess there is room for many websites.
penny2
one of my hubby's work mates are having a combined party for there bday (hubby and wife), they are nerdy programmers heheh, nice enuf people but not ones that i would chose to associate with.. anyway this is the party for the guys they are to bring there computers for a lan, or boardgames and card games, and for us lucky women activites include watching girly movies, knitting, facials and painting nails.
no jokes thats how the invite reads...... i am so not looking forward to it at all, its like 4 hours of my life im never going to get back.
es
Hi Es
I suspect that BD parties aren't all they're cracked up to be!! Although I haven't actually been to a genuine birthday party yet. Facials and painting nails - can't think of anything worse.
You might need all the zoning out skills you learned at district conventions.
penny2
if this topic has been discussed previously, i apologize, but next week i unfortunately must attend the dc which is being held at the local assembly hall.
there are benefits to this as i don't have to rent a car or room for myself and family.
the downside to this is that it will now be harder to miss segments of the program or an entire day without being scrutinized.
ec, don't you feel a flu coming on??
in your experience, at what point will a jw bible student become a convert?
what is the tipping point?
for example, is it the number of studies?
Getting friendly with the witnesses so the peer pressure from inside the congregation is greater than from those outside. This will eventually cause some students to participate in FS - something they probably never thought they would do. Once that point is reached - I think there is a good chance they will continue on to get baptized.
i was in my late 'teens, working for my own money, and polyester pant suits were all the rage in fashion.
working at mc'donald's, i was able to afford two nice matching suits, with the jacket and vest, and a matching shirt...........these i wore to meetings, when i went.
then, the jw grapevine went into action, regarding the suitablity for a sister to be wearing pants at a meeting.
One of the many things that convinced me it couldn't possibly be "the truth" - too many stupid rules on insignificant matters!
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maybe you have some fond stories of this.. my story is that i was forced to join when i was about 12. i always got an assignment that dealt with beastilaity in exodus or somethin.
That brings back memories! I loved giving talks (being a bit of a showoff), loved being the centre of attention. I also enjoyed making arrangements to meet with other sisters beforehand - visiting people you'd not normally get to know. That made fading more difficult - there were so many people I loved.
What I didn't like though, was seeing people so nervous, they shook and felt sick. Especially young ones - whether they were forced or not, they felt compelled.
nothing in side.. i will give you all the short storyl i was married to an elder - had 3 beautiful chilren -- after 17 years of mariiage -- i couldn't take it all any more.
i bailed when my youngest was 11, 13 and 16.. it was my intention to be no religion at all.
i abhor organized religion.
If not, well it didn't hurt any to be sheltered from all the bad stuff out there
Has it crossed his mind that it may not be the truth? Don't lose heart Muslima - he cried, so there's hope! We're thinking of you.
penny2