What does it really mean to say we are getting closer to the end.....closer than what??? I have only been following things JW for about 3 years and I am already seeing the stuff get rehashed.......damn cult!
insearchoftruth
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Is the WTS preparing for a MASS EXODUS?
by passwordprotected inhobo ken and i were chatting about this yesterday.. the wts has past experience of losing vast numbers of members very quickly.
from their post-25 and post-75 experiences they will know how best to prepare their organisational structure to remain afloat when they experience another exodus.. we're only 5 years from the 100 year anniversary of ct russell walking into the dining room and announcing the gentile times had ended.
since then, millions of people have molded and adjusted their lives and personal expectations based on the date 1914. the wts must know that 2015 is going to bring with it one or two upset jws.... so, is the wts preparing for a mass exodus right now?.
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What's the best way to reason with and help your wife to give up her JW religion?
by lifelong humanist ini dad myself 6 years ago, and was quite surprised that my wife (of 38 years) did not follow suit.
perhaps this is because her father and brother are still active jws, and she doesn't want them to shun her the way that they have done to me.. so, my wife is still a jw, albeit losing interest in her religion.
as far as i know, she doesn't even go door to door anymore.
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Be the best damned husband EVER! Show her that non-JW's lead happy and fulfilling lives. Show complete respect for her religious choice while leaving bread crums that might get the wheels in her head going. Flies to honey, you know.
Thanks WD, need to be reminded of this approach......JW wife is not the real person.... Another tip, make sure if you are leaving bread crumbs, leave them when she is her authentic self....
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Lack of education does not = stupid.
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[endif] in combatting cult mind control, steve hassan writes:.
in principle, i am against banning cults from college campuses unless they expressly violate rules of conduct that every student organization is expected to follow.
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insearchoftruth
They are so well trained to get one to accept a conclusion without really thinking about the reasoning and steps to the conclusion. One of the techniques employed when one asks a tough question is to just wait and that question will be answered later in your study.....if one can build trust in little things up front, it often stops one from questioning major things later.
JWs are not stupid by any means, they are misled by a very finely tuned machine to stop them from thinking for themselves....
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What's the best way to reason with and help your wife to give up her JW religion?
by lifelong humanist ini dad myself 6 years ago, and was quite surprised that my wife (of 38 years) did not follow suit.
perhaps this is because her father and brother are still active jws, and she doesn't want them to shun her the way that they have done to me.. so, my wife is still a jw, albeit losing interest in her religion.
as far as i know, she doesn't even go door to door anymore.
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I can see an alternate social structure would be quite important, as they try to suck my wife in, they are trying to dismantle her current social structure. She is supposed to be starting classes in a classroom setting again in August, and is now talking about getting a part time job as well, hopefully both good signs....
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What's the best way to reason with and help your wife to give up her JW religion?
by lifelong humanist ini dad myself 6 years ago, and was quite surprised that my wife (of 38 years) did not follow suit.
perhaps this is because her father and brother are still active jws, and she doesn't want them to shun her the way that they have done to me.. so, my wife is still a jw, albeit losing interest in her religion.
as far as i know, she doesn't even go door to door anymore.
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Have tried lots of things myself, not sure what will work. Some days I seem to making progress, then two steps back.....I think showing unconditional love is very important, but quite difficult when not shown in return, because the org comes first......
I try to ask questions, there are some good ones on this board. Make her aware of strange little nuances that she may not know about, for example I asked her how the bible supports the selection of the JWs as the true religion in 1919......she said she will need to talk to her study sister for that....
Tuesday has some really good 'tough questions for JWs', not all of them will apply in every situation, but they have helped me do a bit of thinking here and there and formalate some ideas.
One thing I found that does not work, and was warned against this and tried it anyway, is a full assault against the doctrines....bible ping pong does not work when one has had critical thinking skills diminished........
Best of luck, hope we get some more ideas here and develop this thread....
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News Concerning SacraficialLoon
by SacrificialLoon inhiyas,.
i am a close friend of sacraficialloon and he requested that i come here and let you guys know what is going on.. .
last night he went to the er for some severe pain in his side.
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Please wish him well and let him know he is in my thoughts......thanks for the information.
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Major anti-cult campaign in autumn? Post here if interested
by rebel8 inso we already have this thread which has separate actions for next month: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/179142/2/make-august-2009-the-dawn-of-the-mass-exodus-the-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-watchtower-org.
i don't intend to discourage anyone from participating in that.
those actions are meant to educate current jws (help people leave).
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Great angle Tuesday.....and your writing style is very good, non controversial......thanks!
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THE REAL BLONDIE'S COMMENTS YOU WILL NOT HEAR AT THE 07-26-09 WT STUDY (ANGELS)
by blondie in10:5, 11, 14; acts 7:53; rev.
(matthew 18:10) see to it that you men do not despise one of these little ones; for i tell you that their angels in heaven always behold the face of my father who is in heaven.. *** w76 8/15 p. 494 par.
not by angels but by a fellow christian.. quote.
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Thanks again Blondie, always great to be able to read what is being 'taught' to the followers......not sure if the wife has read this one or not, but at least I will be prepared in case......
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Major anti-cult campaign in autumn? Post here if interested
by rebel8 inso we already have this thread which has separate actions for next month: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/179142/2/make-august-2009-the-dawn-of-the-mass-exodus-the-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-watchtower-org.
i don't intend to discourage anyone from participating in that.
those actions are meant to educate current jws (help people leave).
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I'm going to try for a documentary, I'm in the VERY early stages working with a producer to find funds.
This to me seems like a very good opportunity to get the word out....and it should be relatively low cost.
Knocking seemed to have gotten a fair amount of airplay due to the PBS series independent lens, I would guess something done on a very fact based level, asking good questions like Tuesday does on his you tube series would be very interesting....there is plenty of information that the WTS has provided that would be of interest to the general public that they (the WTS) have done a very masterful job of shielding from their present membership, at least until the time that they can get thier potential converts and members to feel that anything 'anti-WTS' is merely apostate rants....
There should be plenty of mainstream paths to get the word out.........just want to make sure it is not a rant
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Congregation "Bible Study" Comments - Week Commencing 27 July 2009
by LUKEWARM inif blood must be poured on the ground, where are the blood fractions they use derived from?.
a christian must decide for himself how he will allow his own blood to be handled in the course of a surgical procedure.
red cells white cells platelets plasma.
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Thanks again lukewarm, off a week and still on the blood stuff.....I tried to discuss fractions with my wife and she spewed out the tripe that the bible does not address fractions.....and she does not get it that fractions come from STORED BLOOD........yikes