i know very little about medicine, but from the reading i have done on this and other boards, i understand that the matter of conscience to allow blood fractions has most likely saved many lives.. very few tranfusions done today are whole blood, but i don't know how many.
was wondering if anyone here knows what portion of transfusions that take place are not allowed..
Thanks Tuesday.....
I guess what I am wondering, maybe I will state it better this time, is what medical practices today regarding blood transfusions would not be allowed as a matter of conscience, and if there are practices not allowed, how common are these practices.
Not sure if I am asking my question correctly or not?
everything jw's teach comes from the bible only.
where in the bible does it say that michael is jesus?.
"Do not go beyond what is written."
Tuesday, this is such a true statement, if one were to set up a comparison table, one would need a few rows for Jesus = Michael and a worksheet for Jesus = Jehovah, and even this being the case, the evidence is circumstantial......
i know very little about medicine, but from the reading i have done on this and other boards, i understand that the matter of conscience to allow blood fractions has most likely saved many lives.. very few tranfusions done today are whole blood, but i don't know how many.
was wondering if anyone here knows what portion of transfusions that take place are not allowed..
I know very little about medicine, but from the reading I have done on this and other boards, I understand that the matter of conscience to allow blood fractions has most likely saved many lives.
Very few tranfusions done today are whole blood, but I don't know how many. Was wondering if anyone here knows what portion of transfusions that take place are not allowed.
acts 15 "......abstain from blood, and fornication..." .
one transfusion of hemophiliac treatment can use hundreds of bags of blood!
the process uses up alot of blood supplies.
The legitimate criticism is that a JW can use blood that has been donated by a non-JW, stored, separated into fractions, but is not allowed by the organization to donate to help replenish the supply.
I am very glad that fractions are allowed, for it has most likely saved many lives. I would venture to guess that there are very few 'transfusions' that are not allowed any more.
who knows where this may lead?.
hi, sherri.. i want to thank and commend you for your efforts in exposing the watchtower society for its history of deception, doctrinal flip-flops, and false prophesying about the end of the world.. i belong to a discussion board of mostly ex-jehovah's witnesses, and your revelations about the wts on the view have caused many to seek out our site.. one thing i'd like to ask, are you aware of the wt's past view that black people are inferior to others?.
you can find the details about this at randy watters' site, freeminds.org.
Great letter Sylvia.....you do a great job of asking and answering questions with a very level mind!!!
I just wish I could get my wife who is an on again off again (currently on) study to read past literature, but even when I open the 'current' literature like the reasoning book and point out issues, she already can parrot out the new light statement and how wonderful it is that the JWs are willing to change.......BUT THE BIBLE DOES NOT CHANGE, IT IS THE SAME IN THE PAST, THE PRESENT, AND THE FUTURE
i don't understand their mode of operation.. if they want lots of growth, why don't they just lighten up a bit and dispense with the whole charade of harshness and disfellowshipping.
encourage charitable works, social gatherings, education, freedom of speech, having a family etc etc etc.
this would greatly increase their numbers and their bottom line $$.. they seem to be shooting themselves in the foot at the moment.
MM, very interesting point, but not as far fetched as I would originally have thought, desperate times often call for desperate measures, and right now the source of income (the global north) is not producing the $$ it once did, they can no longer fund the growth in the global south with the money from the US, Japan and Europe.
This in fact may be what they are somewhat thinking of doing in upstate NY, but they could initially couch it as a 'retirement community' for aging witnesses, they could use the free labor to run the place and pretty much just start collecting inheritance money......this accomplishes a bit of a cash flow, closer control of the people and at least on the surface it appears that they are providing for the elderly.......
everything jw's teach comes from the bible only.
where in the bible does it say that michael is jesus?.
But one caution, and Tuesday warned me of this and I failed to heed his warning, don't attempt to argue this point with a well trained (won't say educated witness), this is one of the points that they prepare for, and they will not listen to any logic at all with respect to it...
everything jw's teach comes from the bible only.
where in the bible does it say that michael is jesus?.
Don't you realize he returns with the voice of an archangel, which means he must be an angel.....but also with the trump of God, so by following the same reasoning, he must also be God.......
Am very interested to see this, one of the arguements they use is that Michael is the only archangel, but in the book of Jude where Micheal is actually mentioned, they refer to Enoch, and the book of Enoch, though not part of the cannonical bible, lists seven archangels.
i don't understand their mode of operation.. if they want lots of growth, why don't they just lighten up a bit and dispense with the whole charade of harshness and disfellowshipping.
encourage charitable works, social gatherings, education, freedom of speech, having a family etc etc etc.
this would greatly increase their numbers and their bottom line $$.. they seem to be shooting themselves in the foot at the moment.
Great question.....at least in the more industrialized world it seems that the cashflow from the publishing business has all but dried up, they still have the 'publishers' purchase the literature that they are going to 'place', but not nearly as lucrative as it had been.
At present it appears that they are mainly dealing in real estate, and selling off assets in Brooklyn and either relocating to areas with lower costs or just not rebuilding since the need is not there for the publishing volume and like the rest of the corporate world, they are 'right sizing' there free labor, because even though there is a low cost for the labor, there is still a cost and a liability.
This is merely my opinion, but I think the next move will be an attempt to further isolate themselves as 'special' and therefore further cutting off the 'worldly' people. If they can succeed at blasting the needs of the world, they may be able to better get into the wallets of the followers, better appeals for the worldwide work. They may also succeed by having the local congos build more KHs but then turning around and consolidating and selling.....
The thought of a 'place of safety' is interesting, I think they may be attempting to do this somewhat virtually, by further isolating themselves from the worldlys, and if fully isolated, what is the true need for being materialistic.
