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  Is it time for some new GB members?

  by dozy in

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  2. friends

  it must be white smoke time shortly at brooklyn , following the death of 2 members in the last year.. by all accounts , there can only be 7 active members....... herd (71 years old) , jackson (51) , lett (57) , losch (63) , morris (56) , pierce (71) and splane (62).. the other 3 are all very aged.

  barber (101) is confined to bed , jaracz is in his eighties and (allegedly) has heart trouble and a friend who met jack barr (now 93 years old) in the london bethel this year reckoned that this would be the last time he would be travelling over to the uk as he is very , very frail now.. with new, "grafted in" anointed ones very thin on the ground (and most regarded as certifiable by the r & f) , it is increasingly difficult for the gb to constantly appoint credible new members every few years.

  for years now , the wts has increasingly been talking up the growing influence the non-anointed ones (nethinim , "chieftain class etc) are having in wts affairs - is it now the time for "new light"?

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  The real impact of "apostate" sites

  by dozy in

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  2. bible

  in a recent discussion with a couple of district overseers and other heavies , the topic of the internet and apostate sites came up.

  i asked what impact these were making , numerically , among jws.

  the prevailing view was that , numerically , there was negligible impact.

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  September KM - 70 alterations in Revelation Climax Book

  by dozy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i can't find a thread on this subject yet - if there is one , please delete this one.. the september kingdom ministry has a 4 page insert detailing the 70 alterations in the revelation climax book which is due to be studied at the book study shortly.

  i'll provide scans if anyone is interested.. i will leave it up to more experienced analysts to examine the reasons for specific changes , but just a few brief observations for now:.

  p32 box - "they were completely exonerated" changed to "charges against them were dropped" - interesting change of terminology for the 1918 watchtower eight.

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  Conservative v Liberal power struggle in JWs

  by dozy in

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  from my reading of ray franz's books , it would seem that there was an underlying conflict in the late 70's , with some members of the gb and associated committees pursuing a more liberal , mainstream agenda.

  for example , ray published his 1976 wt article defining "sacred service" as including "good works" such as looking after family members and charitable activities and ed dunlap published the excellent "commentary to the letter of james" (never quoted nowadays by the wts) stressing traditional christian qualities.

  both were purged in the late 70's.. is it likely that a similar movement will gain ascendancy or do we assume that the present leadership will continue on the "high control" agenda?

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  Alternative Service "New Light" 1996 - Reaction

  by dozy in

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  are there any threads or web pages that give some feedback on the reaction to the downgrading of military alternative service from no-no to "conscience matter" in '96?

  (i've read franz's comments on the change.

  ) if i had been in prison for 2 or 3 "prime" years on the back of a policy that then subsequently changed , i would have been furious.

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  UN Question - Any Takers?

  by dozy in

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  no - nothing to do with ngo / dpi or anything like that!.

  my question concerns rev 17:9-11 and specifically the reference "was , but is not , and yet will be" which jws interpret as the league of nations , dissolved during ww2 & then re-established as the un.

  i vaguelly recall researching how jws interpreted this scripture before 1939 & recall that they applied the "was" bit to a different un-type organisation that existed before world war 1 , was then dissolved and the "will be" was then applied to the league.

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  2007 District Conventions

  by dozy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i've heard from 2 independent and impeccable sources "close to the gb" (i should have been a journalist!

  ) that the 2007 conventions are all to be held within a one month period.

  as stadiums are often booked up to five years in advance , this has caused consternation among district overseers and at least one stadium has charged the jws several thousands of pounds in a penalty clause to cancel and reschedule the booking.

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  Meek inheriting the earth?

  by dozy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this question is really aimed at those who have exited jws but still retain a belief in the bible.

  what did jesus mean here (mt 5:5)?

  when i ask "christians" this question , they usually have no idea.

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  Kool - Aid

  by dozy in

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  2. friends

  i was puzzled by the numerous references to this as we don't have this product in the uk , but realise (after googling) that it refers to the jonestown massacre.

  the implication presumably being that jws are so dumb , they will do anything that those in authority ask them to do.

  (shame this doesn't apply when i am looking for volunteers to stand in for the tms.

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  Relationship with God

  by dozy in

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  just a general question , really.. i'm an active witness who is questioning & researching - unsure of any conclusions yet.

  i've spoken to a couple of former apostates who have been reinstated as to why they returned (as i know that very few do) and the summary of their conclusions is given below.

  i would appreciate your comments.. ...essentially they had a strong relationship with god and felt that this was the paramount purpose in life.

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