last thursday i left a mail at the mailbox of the co of the cong i atleast untill now still attend.
the mail concerned the child abuse issue, quoted the nytimes article alleging 24k recorded abusers, child abuse policy & some other things child abuse things that elude my mind.
today at the weekly watchtower brainwashing.
I'm in a state of confusion as to why anyone wld continue going there after coming to an accurate knowlege of all the lies and deceitfulness
You aren't crazy but they will try to make you feel you are the problem. Be prepared to walk out the door.
It is very disturbing when you find out the truth about "the truth".
Diddo, diddo, diddo!
http://www.levi56.proboards58.com/index.cgi?action=resendactivation2
What can I say? I'm a Nancy Grace fan.
we sent our da letter on 9/10/06.
the first week or so, i lived in fear of the phone ringing or someone knocking on the door, wanting to help us "see reason".
i know they got the letter, because the previous annoying phone calls and uninvited visits from an elder abruptly came to a stop.
I'm not surprised either. My husband and I DA's ourselves almost a year ago and no one has tried to call or visit. Our eldest children, 19 & 21, are baptized but have done the fade thing when we DA's ourselves and the local JW youths have been bad mouthing my kids ever since. Real christian-like behavior. Bravo to their parents for teaching their children some real christ-like qualities.
It's been a painful recovery for me. Born and raised a JW who wasn't supposed to graduated high school. Afterall, we were suppose to be in the paradise in 1975.
i just emailed the dr. phil show with significant aspects of my story--not just the jw stuff but with being a large part of the complicated picture and said i would be willing to air my issues on their show.
the hidden horrors of marital sex abuse and of sleep-rape, specifically, must be exposed to the general public.
too many believe that it's not even possible to rape a sleeping woman...and they are soooo wrong, as my firsthand experience attests!!!
What about sitting in front of JC of 3 men with your 17-year-old daughter as they question her about all the details of her sexual encounter that came to the elders attention. I mean they wanted to know every little detail. It even made me, her own mother, blush. I felt this was extremely inappropriate, and quite frankly all these details was none of their business. What a bunch of sick perverts! The public needs to be aware of how the handle their "judicial committees" with minors.
what a wonderful response i have received from my last (which was my first post) post from everyone here.
the one thing that was drilled into my head was that you can not trust anyone that is not a jw.
i had only one worldly friend since high school and she has been there for me thru everything.
My opinion has always been that there is a lot great people in this world--even some JWs are truly sincere and loving, but just blind and brainwashed. It's like nails on a chalk board when JWs go on and on about the paradise because I know to them the paradise does not include these other great people in the world. Before DA'ing myself I would say if God thinks I'm not a good enough person (or any of these other great people--non JWs) to live in his paradise, then I don't want to live there anyways. I know I'm a good person with a sincere heart who loves their neighbor and God, like most people I know and like I'm sure everyone on this board.
good very hello,.
i am not a jw but have had the pleasure of reading, studying and associating to a small degree.
i have been reading with interest the societies involvement in the un as ngo.
Please take the time to read the following entitled "Where Else Would I Go" at JW truths http://jwfacts.com/index_files/where.htm If fact, there if a lot of interesting info found there. The link to the home page is http://jwfacts.com/index.htm
does anyone remember a couple of years ago at the district convention a reference made to the millions now living thing but substituted "will never die" with "may never die"?
i had a complete fit when they said that and that pretty much sealed my conviction to leave the jw crapola.
who did they think they were trying to fool?
Does anyone remember a couple of years ago at the district convention a reference made to the Millions Now Living thing but substituted "will never die" with "may never die"? I had a complete fit when they said that and that pretty much sealed my conviction to leave the JW crapola. Who did they think they were trying to fool? Oh, we'll just slip in the "may". These brain dead, non-thinking idiots won't notice anyway. What ever!
it all starts after you hear "these things we pray through jesus christ, amen".
i gather my books and the kid's books and put them away.
by that time people are walking over to us and talking to my wife and playing with my kids.
I think it's great that you want to help out your wife with the kids, but if you're so miserable going to the meetings (and truthfully, who isn't) why are you going? Just to be reinstated? Is your intention to become an active JW with a happy actively publishing JW family? Or is that your wife's wish? I can totally relate to wanting to did it for your kids, and family, etc. Trust me, but after pretending for about 12 years I told them to shove and actually DA's myself this year. What freedom, no pretending anymore. Is it not possible to take care of the children at home while she attends the meetings?
one of the things that i have noticed since i have been out is that "apostates"/ex-jw's tend to try and "controll" you the same way as jw's used to do.
for example: whenever you tell an "apostate" that you are no longer one of jw's they right away asume that you want to be a "born-again" christian and try to cram the "trinity" doctrine down your throat.
also if you tell an apostate that you don't share their views on hell-fire damnation they will immediately look at you with "contempt".
By their definition, anyone who claims the beliefs of the dubs are wrong is an apostate and can be disfellowshipped
Can be disfellowsipped? Come on! They will be disfellowshipped. The TRUE meaning of apostate according the JW lingo is anyone who questions anything the WTS says. Apostacy is held over your head like a very dirty word, one that brings feelings of utter filth to a faithful JW. To them, just the thought of looking into the eyes of an "apostate" will cause God, thru his "channel" of course, bring down flashes of lightening and rain frogs, and you'll be struck with leoprosy, etc. You get the idea. Once again it's all a control issue.
religion vs. the reality of a personal relationship with christ.
the following is what i have come to believe the through bible reading:.
religion: can have outward forms that bring us into bondage to those forms.
Amen! Couldn't have put it any better myself.
Diddo.
it should be personal growth in Christ, not personal growth into a Churches ideology or doctrine.
Priceless comment. This is why I love reading posts in this forum. Honest hearted, reasonable people. Thanks for sharing with us.
