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  Blood and Tears

  by Bookey in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi folks, here is my article that i posted in the friends category by mistake (didn't realize this area existed)...please give me any feedback/criticism whatever you feel in your heart please speak it...thanks.

  blood & hypocrisy .

  the jehovah's witnesses have taught that blood is sacred (human blood that is) and that receiving blood via a medical transfusion to sustain life is a sin.

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  All these points are very well made.

  What really convinced me of the absurdity of JW’s ban on blood transfusions was the idea that you were somehow eating blood. What brought this point home to me was the illustration of a man in the hospital dying from starvation. Would a doctor give him intravenous food or a blood transfusion? The answer is simple. A blood transfusion would not nourish his body like intravenous food would. Therefore the illustration used by the society of a man told by his doctor to not drink alcohol but still he injects alcohol into his body being the same as Christians told not to eat blood but injecting it into their bodies is unfair….apples and oranges. Blood, unless eaten through the mouth or digestive system, is not used by the body for nourishment. Now, the society counters this argument by saying the blood is used by the body to carry the foods nourishing components to the rest of the body. Still not the same, it is not in itself being used for food, it is being used to transport the food among many other things and many other functions.

  The other point that really makes sense to me is the whole view of blood from God’s standpoint. Blood is symbolic of life. Life is sacred to God and therefore blood is sacred to God because it represents life. What the WTBTS does is place the importance of the symbol ABOVE the importance of that which it symbolizes. This simply does not make sense. I come's down to this, which I more sacred to God your life or a symbol of your life (blood)?

  Leolaia, I really appreciate your point. I did not realize how God allowed his own rules to be bent, even broken, when the loss of life was on the line.
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  WORLD!!!! Please take notice!!!!

  by lost_light06 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just want to put the world on notice.

  the next time you open the door and see a jw standing there with a watchtower about armageddon and an awake about butterflies dont turn him away!!!

  do not say im not interested.

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  ARRGHHH Dr. Jekyll!!!! You figured out my evil (yet rightous) plan!!!!
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  WORLD!!!! Please take notice!!!!

  by lost_light06 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just want to put the world on notice.

  the next time you open the door and see a jw standing there with a watchtower about armageddon and an awake about butterflies dont turn him away!!!

  do not say im not interested.

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  I just want to put the world on notice. The next time you open the door and see a JW standing there with a Watchtower about Armageddon and an Awake about butterflies DON’T TURN HIM AWAY!!! DO NOT SAY “I’M NOT INTERESTED”. This is a life or death situation!! You see as Jehovah’s Witnesses believe (and we all know they and only they have “the truth”) their preaching activity is fulfilling a work Jesus, or is it Jehovah, set forth to warn the world of it’s impending doom. Anyone who does not receive this message from a complete stranger standing on their doorstep at 10:00am on a Saturday morning and then swiftly and surely convert their faith to that of the JW will be destroyed violently by our Loving God Jehovah. You see this is the same method Jesus and his disciples employed to convert the Jews and Romans to Christianity in the first century. And while JW’s and their evangelical targets don’t have the luxary of doorstep miracles and a first person eyewitness of our lord and savior Jesus Christ (or is it Jehovah) that should not be an issue. A person on your door in a cheap suit with a fake leather satchel waving magazines about impending doom and tiger lilies should be just as convincing. Therefore you must, with out second thought, receive their message with all your human power and convert your beliefs, discard your immoral ways, leave your un-believing family behind and attend 5 hours of meetings a week, 3 assembly days and 1 weekend long convention a year lest you be lovingly killed at the hand of Jehovah God Almighty. Sounds reasonable right?
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  Talk Prayer

  by under_believer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  someone posted something in another thread about how prayer is often used to summarize the content of the meeting.

  this is absolutely true and is something that always has really bothered me about witness meetings.

  jws often use the opening or closing prayer to "teach" the congregation.

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  I have noticed this, and I hate it. Really takes away any heart felt feeling in a prayer. It's just a closing comment on the contents of the meeting/assembly.
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  "Theocratic Warfare" - An Apostate Strategy?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  who here had ever heard of this so-called 'doctrine' of "theocratic warfare" when you were a jehovah's witness?

  who has not heard of the so-called doctrine now that you are an apostate?

  so why have witnesses never heard of 'doctrine', yet apostates seem to promote it as the last word on witness standards of honesty, integrity and decency?

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  It's easy to come here and ask for wriiten proof that the WTBS has a theocratic warfare strategy. If the society instructed in writing that it's members lie to police, court officials or people in positions of authority it would then be culpable when the members actually did so. You are using the oldest trick in the WTBS handbook: set forth a rule or doctrine then when the r&f get busted doing it or are called out on it, deny you ever said it. I was raised a witness but have only been baptized less than a decade, I'm in my mid twenties and I heard of theocratic warfare long before even seeing this or any other "apostate" board. I had never even read a WT published in the 60's or 70's so you can't tell me I read it in some old dusty publications. I heard it at the KH, at assemblies. We were told "it's ok to withhold information from people who don't deserve to know when it protects the flock". This is common knowledge among the r&f. Do they all call it "Theocratic Warfer"? No, but a turd called by any other name is still a turd.
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  The Single Most Dangerous JW Meeting....in my opinion!

  by enlightenedcynic in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the way i see it, pretty much everyone here knows that the 5 weekly meetings, the memorial, the dc's and ca's are all a bunch of rubbish and jibber jabber.

  there is still one other meeting, not as frequently held as the others, that jw's use very effectively to control existing members and bring in new converts and this meeting sadly plays apon the emotions of all in attendance.. what meeting is this?.

  a kh funeral!!!.

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  I too recently attended a JW funural, for a young boy . There wasn't a dry eye in the place, mine included. The format held true to JW tradition, though. There were a few comments about this child in the beginning and then 30 minutes of "we will see him in paradise and this is why". There was more talk about the "hope" of every JW than there was about the child. It wasn't until the final comment about how "we hope to see him in the future" that the speaker actually began to cry. The whole talk felt so detached from the reason we were there, to remember this child and his shortened life. To pay respects to him and the uncertainty of life. No, we must try and convert all the non-believers that may be there. I was really embarrassed and sickened by the whole thing. Of course all you heard after the memorial was how great the talk was. I was thinking to myself "great? there's nothing even good about it. It was a pointless infomercial."
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  Shave heads?

  by dothemath in

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  2. beliefs

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  just a few weeks before the district convention, there was a brother playing a major part in the drama who decided to shave his head.........(there wasn't a lot there anyway) (this happened 3 or 4 years ago somewhere in canada).

  as a result, he was told he could no longer be in the drama...........and someone else had to step in on rather short notice.. it seems they still equate everyone with a shaved head as some kind of a "skinhead", belonging to a gang or something.. is this how it's views elsewhere?

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  This is pretty common. A brother in my circuit has a shaved head, he is balding and prefers no hair to some hair. He was assigned a part on a special day assembly. At the elders/MS meeting during a circuit assembly the C.O. or D.O. told him he a had to grow his hair or they would give the part to someone else. He told them to give it away because he wasn't growing his hair back. This is a particular sore spot with me. I can't understand why the brothers in charge feel it necessary to try and control everything the r&f do especially personal decisions like the way you look, how much hair you have, how long your sideburns are, if you have a beard or not.
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  Why isn't everyone allowed to interpert the Bible, and write their own maga

  by Judas I. in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  zines about it?

  why is the the truth hidden from us...yet revealed to a chosen few?

  ) what makes these people more loved and trusted than us..are we not entitled to the truth?

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  This is a question I asked myself and lead me to question the Watchtower and religion in general. I wonder, would a truly loving God who has given all of mankind his word in the form of the bible only make it comprehensible by a few? Why would such a loving God give us the bible, yet require us to put faith in man to understand it. It does not make sense to me. That would be like a father who knows the secret to happiness and longevity writing it down but in a code only 2 of his 12 children can decipher. The other 10 children must rely on their faith, not in their father, but in the 2 children to tell them the truth about what their father said. The watchtower, like most every other religion, claims that we need them to tell us what our heavenly father says to us in the bible, we can not understand it with out them. This requires faith, but not in God, the faith it requires is faith in imperfect men. Faith that what they tell us is accurate, that what they tell us is not self serving to them. Faith that they are not lying to us for personal gain. Would not true faith in God require us to trust that his word the bible is truly written for all mankind and that our interpretation of it, if not self serving but rather heartfelt and humble, is what we need to live a God pleasing life?
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  Anyone from Beaverton/Hillsboro Oregon area here?

  by lost_light06 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just curious.

  seems to be a lot of mid-west, east coast and "across the pond" folks.

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  Just curious. Seems to be a lot of mid-west, east coast and "across the pond" folks.
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  WTS Circle of Reasoning...

  by Confession in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  take a look at this, and tell me if it flows properly.

  could this be simpler?

  is it missing something.

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  Now all you need is a little spinning arrow so you can spin it and start the game wherever you like. Don't keep score though 'cause competition is bad.