John Doe,
I've been here long enough to appreciate that you're a keen young man, a hard worker with solid goals in life.
But you're not half as clever as you think yourself. So, I urge you:
You and the @#$%^ horse you rode in on — get off this topic!
Lacking even a shade of a clue, you embarrass yourself and make enemies.
"Put that in your pipe and smoke it."
~Sue
betterdaze
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SMOKING
by elder-schmelder inwill we be able to smoke in the "new system"?.
i think that we would because our lungs will be perfect and can cleanse themselfs.. .
elder-schmelder.
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Armageddon: The Aftermath Chronicles (1)
by cameo-d inive been ten thousand miles in the mouth of a graveyard,.
.....and its a hard rains a-gonna fall.. .
----hard rain by bob dylan.
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Oh goody! I was enjoying your story during the week and looking forward to more.
~Sue
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this happened recently in the southern US
by stillin inlet me try to post this again.. god bless.
you will not have a dry eye.
killed in action the week before, the body of staff sergeant first class john c. beale was returned to falcon field in peachtree city , georgia , just south of atlanta , on june 11, 2009. the henry county police department escorted the procession to the funeral home in mcdonough , georgia .
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That link (and the other one you put up) doesn't work for me... is this it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9306gUTzUOc
~Sue
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WTS causing more anguish
by GapingMouth ini don't really know where to start on my first post; i feel i have so much to say and yet i am so emotionally tired that it is hard to go through it all again in my head.
but, i do need support and advice and so i will make the effort.. i started having doubts about certain beliefs of the witnesses about 2 years ago and did research since that i now come to the belief there is no god, and witnesses definitely are a cult.. at first it bothered me more on the god issue, but now i am more bothered by the cult issue, mainly because it dictates my life even though i am aware of it.. when i was a child, my mother and father divorced and my mother told me i will live with my father because she was going to die at armageddon being a non witness.
i think, as well as many other pressures i cant list for fear of a very long post, this was the main pressure that made me get baptized even though i wasn't that happy being a witness.
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betterdaze
Welcome, GapingMouth.
I tested the waters with my wife and although she says she'd respect my new beliefs,
I know for a fact she would think less of me and our relationship would be very damaged.
One thing for sure, it is complicated for husbands who wake up to the Watchtower first because of the headship issue. The wife's "deep respect" is overshadowed by her adherence to the Watchtower's rules first and foremost.
I was raised JW in a "divided" home where my father's headship was undermined repeatedly. To this day my JW mother skillfully uses the religion's "Theocratic Warfare" as a tool to control and/or undermine family members (none of whom became baptized, though some are still believers).
Not saying your wife is anything like my mother — sincerely hope not — but this is what the religion teaches spouses with unbelieving mates, and it is harmful and confusing to the kids. For instance, I was taught that I didn't have to listen to my father because he was going to die at Armageddon anyway. Your children may be marked as "bad association" because you simply choose not to believe anymore, even if your wife remains in good standing. Nice, huh?I can't bare to lose them to the point I decided I must continue my fake-age.
I understand it is a complex keeping-the-family together issue, and not a spiritual one. Fake-age is okay until you can develop some coping strategies. Hang in there,
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Places that won't exist in the "Paradise Earth"
by Zico inmachu picchu, peru.
itsukushima shrine, japan.
taj mahal, india .
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All those computer-generated la-la land scenes in the new video release,
"The Wonders of Creation Reveal God's Glory."
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I need some good responses to the excuse "The elders are imperfect"
by BonaFide inplease make them simple, i have noticed that some of my friends can only stand logic for about 30 seconds before they start changing the subject.
i need some good questions, or points to make them think.
i have tried my own, but i need a better response.. here are the comments my friends have made:.
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betterdaze
"The elders are imperfect."
Yes, then we should "keep on watch" for those who are to be sifted.
Jehovah, speaking through His inspired prophet, says such ones are to become as "scummy dross."
Eventually, they must cut off and thrown into the fire.In the meantime, shall we not focus on the provision of regular meeting attendance and field service, while Jesus The Slave separates the wheat?
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any ideas on cleaning suit jackets?
by Spike Tassel ini wear a suit jacket or blazer 365 days a year, currently rotating 16 jackets.. i am allergic to tobacco and perfumes and various household cleaners.. any suggestions as to how i can clean them myself, without the hazards of going to a drycleaner?.
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Hey JD, Men's Journal just did some articles on that recently:
http://www.mensjournal.com/the-best-nabes-west
http://www.mensjournal.com/best-nabes-southeast
http://www.mensjournal.com/best-nabes-northeast
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Barbara Anderson just returned from Europe where she vigorously criticized WTs dangerously harmful policies.
by koolaid-man informer bethelites and wt critics, barbara and joe anderson, just returned from a month in europe where barbara spoke at five conferences in three countries.
she was also interviewed by the italian press and met with a number of italian religious officials.
in france, she met with french government officials and representatives of anti-cult organizations.
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(translated with Yahoo! Babelfish)
Anderson Barbara in Romagna. Indictment against Witnesses of Geova
Its wireless and television words thrown again from the network of America have shaken million Americans. Its detections, directed and circostanziate, have rendered it - in all probability - the enemy number one of the accused Witnesses of covered Geova of having in order much time cases of sexual abuses on minors.
PROVINCE | 03 July 2009 | Now - after beyond 40 years of permanence between their row, much to be person in charge to write the official history of the religious movement - Barbara Anderson turns the world in order to invite young people and families to keep itself far away from the Witnesses of Geova and their “dangers”.
This fine week - after to be taken part, today, to the University of Geneva for the conference anniversary of the international Association for the study of the seven - it will make stage in Romagna for a series of organized appointments from the Gris. Tomorrow evening to Cervia in order to speak about the “Pedophilia hidden from the Witnesses of Geova”, Sunday evening to Rimini, in order to stop themselves on 'Because it is risky to join the Witnesses of Geova”. We have caught up by telephone to its arrival in Italy.
“They are approached to Me the Witnesses of Geova”, that it will abandon in 1997, “much young person - it explains -. I had 14 years in 1954 and was a time of great uncertainties. It was the time of the atomic bomb, was watched with worry to the future. I was a catholic girl and had many questions on the life and the Bible. The catholic Church - it adds - spoke about God like of a mystery, did not give answers to the questions of a child. The Witnesses of Geova seemed that they gave answers, took to them directly from the pages of the Bible. My mother, a catholic of Polish origins, did not make much attention the thing - she emphasizes - did not have theological bases, did not know the foundations well: they said that she has be a matter herself of ignorance”.
From the income in the witnesses of Geova, in 1954, she begins a scaling kind that door Anderson until to the prestigious Watch Tower Library di Brooklyn and to the task writing up an official history of the religious movement using documents contained in the newyorchese library.
A task that it will open wide to them, those which define the “secrets” of the Witnesses of Geova. “Working in that within, inside of the Watch Tower - it continues - I have had way to discover many things, also negative things, between which cases of pedophilia. Cases - it emphasizes - covered from the same organization. Also because - it specifies - between the Witnesses of Geova vige a norm, that they say Biblical, second which a person cannot itself be accused if not there are at least two witnesses. Of fact many secrets are remained to acquaintance of the old ones that have not left to trapelare the accadimenti outside: the cloth, insomma, has been washed in house”.
For this, the Anderson has progressively taken the distances from the movement till to render television and wireless testimonies on the network to stars and strisce. Particularly incisive a its presence to the transmission “Dateline”, program of tip of the Nbc, from sempreuna of the nets more continuations of the entire Country.
“The pedophilia - it observes - is not a sin, is a crime. The old ones had to go to tell all to the authorities instead holding inside all of the organization. It has been a case of a man who has completed abuses for twenty years and he has been moved of congregation in congregation. Now it is a fuggitivo and between the main ones searched from the Fbi”.
Various cases, argue, are ended in a “classroom of Court”, where it has been removed the veil to behaviors but many “have seen to catch up of the transactions” of stragiudiziale character. Some also consisting from the economic point of view.
Anderson Barbara and the Joe husband is for a long time “dissident”, spillages from the Witnesses of Geova. As a result of this choice, the son - defined from the same “radical” Anderson - has turned the shoulders to the parents to which he does not leave to see the nipotino. “Our grandson - she has chiosato with regard to - grows in an isolation kind”.
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Russia Today: Will Jehovahs Witnesses be banned in Russia?
by betterdaze inwill jehovahs witnesses be banned in russia?
jehovahs witnesses, known for their doomsday prophecies, are seen as an extremist cult by the russian authorities.
banned in many countries, their activities could soon become illegal in russia as well.. .
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Will Jehovah’s Witnesses be banned in Russia?
Jehovah’s Witnesses, known for their doomsday prophecies, are seen as an extremist cult by the Russian authorities. Banned in many countries, their activities could soon become illegal in Russia as well.
Since appearing in Russia in the early 1990s, Jehovah’s Witnesses have rapidly gained popularity. The organization says they have 200,000 members in the country, but they could soon be classed as criminals.
A high-profile case five years ago branded Jehovah’s Witnesses “an extremist organization” that incites religious hatred and breaks up families.
They were stripped of their Moscow registration, yet even though Jehovah’s Witnesses were able to re-register, authorities have issued over forty official warnings to them in the last three years.
Their faith doesn’t allow them to receive blood transfusions, and several have been tried for denying them to their children. Most notably last year, doctors in Russia’s far eastern city of Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky had to appeal to court to get permission for a blood transfusion for a six-year-old girl after she suffered serious head trauma. The court ruled in their favor and the doctors managed to save the child.
Some of Jehovah’s Witnesses have been imprisoned for refusing to do their compulsory military service.
Critics of the group warn that the people they recruit into their community end up being brainwashed.
Oleg Zakharenkov’s wife changed completely after becoming a Jehovah's Witness.
“She became isolated. She began to disappear for days and give them all my money,” says Oleg.
Jehovah's Witnesses were founded in the US in the late 19th century. There are over seven million regular followers worldwide.
They say their unusual beliefs – such as refusing to vote or serve on juries – don't make them a dangerous cult:
“Our poor image comes from those in the media and the authorities who have no knowledge about us. When people meet us, they realize what good we do for society,” said Aleksandr Valevich.
Jehovah’s Witnesses are banned in China, parts of Africa and some former Soviet republics. As for Russia, some say it will be difficult to prove their guilt.
“Personally, I think Jehovah’s witnesses combine the worst features of an international corporation that exploits its own members, and a totalitarian state. But it’s hard to prove what current law they are breaking,” theologist Father Mikhail Plotnikov told RT.