do you worry about pesticides and numerous other toxic subtances that find their way in our food eg plasticisers, and heavy metals such as mercury in fish?
do you think these are responsible for the increase in cancer diabetes and other diseases that went up explosively in the last 70 years?
populations still living naturally in primitive setups rarely suffer from such degenerative diseases.
I heard of this really dangerous substance in our foods. ; It's called dihydrogen monoxide. ; http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html ; It killed many during Hurricane Katrina.
As a former high school science teacher turned medical prefessional I can attest to the DANGER of this stuff. Drink to much of it at once and your brain swells and you're dead. Inhale enough.... you're history. No one in their right mind would let a small child near the stuff without close supervision.
in the old testament god revealed himself to his chosen people, the israelites as i am:.
ex 3:14-15 - god replied to moses, i am who i am.
this is what you are to say to the israelites: i am .
So, noone has seen God (they've seen Jesus) so he must not be God..but a god, who is at the father's side who has made him know to us as the Word... ;
No one has ever seen God the Father... plenty have seen God the Son. If find it quite unusual that the only translation of the bible that mistranslates John 1:1 is the JW version. Of course, it's common knowledge that the JW version was translated by none other than uneducated, non-bibical language experts. They had to mistranslate this verse to "fit" their doctrine. "The Word was God" can't be translated any other way. You can not find any Greek bibical language expert that will agree with the JW version. Couple that with John 1:14 and it's clear that Jesus was God in the flesh... God the Son. It really can't get any simplier especially when one examines the other verses throughout the bible.
you can read the history of my df'd friend dee here.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/108564/1890778/post.ashx#1890778.
now for the update.
This girl is about to drive me nuts! She went to the KH today.... told my friend who she lives with that the talk was really good, blah, blah, blah. But then she says..... I don't think I will ever go back "in"(i.e. reinstated... you know jump through all those hoops and crap)... my lifestyle is not compatable with what they want me to do. My friend says you can always go with me to the Methodist church with me. Dee says...Oh no.....I believe what they preach.
QUESTION...... If she believes what they preach.......as a DF'd JW she's "dead meat" at the moment. If she actually believes the WT she will ALWAYS BE DEAD MEAT if she doesn't do the jump through the hoop thing. As a non-JW I am right. Right?
She's driving me nuts, but I must say we haven't gotten to the "why does the JW bible read so much different than all the other translations yet". If I think about it.....I think she believes in God...wants to believe in God....... maybe just not the WT god. As of now.... she only knows the WT god.
I only saw her briefly this evening. I will see her tomorrow briefly then I out of the country for a week. I'm going to give her the UN thing I printed from the their website about the WT. When I get back into town I'm going to see if I can get her on here with you guys. Let her feel that she's not alone. We'll see.
Helping a DF'd JW see the real "light" is like eating an elephant. You gotta do it one small bite at a time!
you can read the history of my df'd friend dee here.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/108564/1890778/post.ashx#1890778.
now for the update.
You can read the history of my DF'd friend Dee here. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/108564/1890778/post.ashx#1890778
Now for the update. We were talking at lunch this past Friday over at her place. The conservation found its way to DFing and and the like. She told me that she had been on "reproof" for 2 years before being DF'd a couple of months ago. She still shows up at the KH on Sundays and during the week some. Anyway..... I led the conversation towards the UN. We talked about the WT preaching how evil the UN is, blah, blah, blah and she agreed. I began to explain how an organization can join the UN as a NGO and what all that meant. You know the details. I then said this. You should have seen the LOOK on her face! I said did you know the WT had joined the UN as a NGO in the early 90's and had recently withdrew the NGO membership around 2002. The look on her face was as though she had just seen a ghost. We talked about why someone (the WT) would say one thing and do another. She basically was speechless. I told her I would print out the document directly from the UN website and get it to her. She is SLOWLY SEEING THE LIGHT. The advantage I have with her is that I have never been a JW. She knows I don't have an axe to grind or trying to get her to go to my church. I don't attend church anymore even though I found Jesus back in 1974.
We joke around a lot. I told her I was going by the KH on Sunday and put a pack of smokes and some nudie mags in every car! She thought that was pretty funny. We also talked about the thread someone started about what would you put on a billboard if it stood next to a KH. "This KH has no windows - Car stereo liquidation!" and "Do you want to screw up your life? Come on in!" She thought those were pretty funny.
She's THINKING.....that's what it takes.
Joe......
if you could rent a bill board where you knew jehovah's witnesses would see it, what would you put on it to try to effectively reach them?
and don't forget that lots of other people would see it to.
maybe the regular joe would be able to develope some good questions from your ad too.
STAND BACK
LIGHTNING
MAY STRIKE
AT
ANY MOMENT!
if you could rent a bill board where you knew jehovah's witnesses would see it, what would you put on it to try to effectively reach them?
and don't forget that lots of other people would see it to.
maybe the regular joe would be able to develope some good questions from your ad too.
There are no windows on this Kingdom Hall. Car stereo Liquidation!!!!!!!!!!
That makes me think..... I could get some bumper stickers that say "www.freeminds.org" and put them on all the cars. Maybe toss a pack of smokes and a Hustler mag into all the cars to see who gets DF.
if you could rent a bill board where you knew jehovah's witnesses would see it, what would you put on it to try to effectively reach them?
and don't forget that lots of other people would see it to.
maybe the regular joe would be able to develope some good questions from your ad too.
"IF YOU JOINED A CULT, YOU'D BE HOME BY NOW"
LMAO......... that's a good one!
it is funny but i love that old expression "karma is the best payback".
i happened to see one of those super arognant elders that was the judicial committee that put me on "private reproof" years ago when i was a "devout" jw and fell into unscriptual conduct.
they literally had me trembling back there in the back of the kh wondering if i was going to be disfellowshipped or put on public reproof.
Speaking as one who has never been a JW..... the dude is mentally ill.
summit pale ale (local brew)
or miller lite
whats your favorite beer.
Bierbitzch....... you have to check out the video! No, really! http://www.rulesdontapply.com/beer-bitch.wmv
in the vidoe of the elder that went on how the word "shun" had a bad stereotype and said that jw's don't use that word............it baffled me that so many of us have heard that word used in regards to disfellowshipping and this man that had been a po for 30 years denied it.. in the august 2002 km there is an article.
display christian loyalty when a relative is disfellowshipped.
in all fairness i would like to post the whole article but can't type it all out right now........but will when it is not so late....... on page 4 par 12 it reads.......... benefits of being loyal to jehovah: .
When I read that quote I was at first, to be honest, inclined to vomit. I am reminded of the following words of Jesus...... Here's the JW's own translation.
John 8: 1-11
But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. 2 At daybreak, however, he again presented himself at the temple, and all the people began coming to him, and he sat down and began to teach them. 3 Now the scribes and the Pharisees brought a woman caught at adultery, and, after standing her in their midst, 4 they said to him: “Teacher, this woman has been caught in the act of committing adultery. 5 In the Law Moses prescribed for us to stone such sort of women. What, really, do you say?” 6 Of course, they were saying this to put him to the test, in order to have something with which to accuse him. But Jesus bent down and began to write with his finger in the ground. 7 When they persisted in asking him, he straightened up and said to them: “Let the one of YOU that is sinless be the first to throw a stone at her.” 8 And bending over again he kept on writing in the ground. 9 But those who heard this began going out, one by one, starting with the older men, and he was left alone, and the woman that was in their midst. 10 Straightening up, Jesus said to her: “Woman, where are they? Did no one condemn you?” 11 She said: “No one, sir.” Jesus said: “Neither do I condemn you. Go your way; from now on practice sin no more.”
Matt 7:5
“Stop judging that YOU may not be judged; 2 for with what judgment YOU are judging, YOU will be judged; and with the measure that YOU are measuring out, they will measure out to YOU . 3 Why, then, do you look at the straw in your brother’s eye, but do not consider the rafter in your own eye? 4 Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Allow me to extract the straw from your eye’; when, look! a rafter is in your own eye? 5 Hypocrite! First extract the rafter from your own eye, and then you will see clearly how to extract the straw from your brother’s eye.
