I thought this was an active jw site. So my intentions of telling you all what you already know have been in vain.
jane53
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know the truth, not beleif
by jane53 in"i don't think about when the end will come......i believe it will, like all christians but it is not a place to dwell.
we don't know when...so we just live our lives as believers doing that daily stuff.
you're right, we, as human beings dont know when 'the end' will come.
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know the truth, not beleif
by jane53 in"i don't think about when the end will come......i believe it will, like all christians but it is not a place to dwell.
we don't know when...so we just live our lives as believers doing that daily stuff.
you're right, we, as human beings dont know when 'the end' will come.
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jane53
"I don't think about when the end will come......I believe it will, like all Christians but it is not a place to dwell. We don't know when...so we just live our lives as believers doing that daily stuff."
You're right, we, as human beings DONT know when 'the end' will come. Just like we DONT know if there will be an end, just like we DONT KNOW for sure if there is a god or if there isn't one. Not because we refuse to 'beleive' but because WE JUST DONT KNOW! WE KNOW that we are alive now. WE KNOW that we see through our eyes, hear with our ears, smell with our nose. WE KNOW that by giving blood we stop A PERSON FROM DYING. we KNOW that science has PROVEN with EVIDENCE that we EVOLVED AND SO DID ALL OTHER LIFE ON THE PLANET. IT IS TRUTH, NOT BELEIF. and whilst we can think about, fantasise, hypothesise, dream, think up ideas and theories, that is exactly what they are. Ideas, theories. THere MIGHT be a god. There might not. POint is, we all want the one thing, happiness and peaceful times for all. We want suffering to stop. with every disease cured or prevented by science, WE PREVENT AND STOP MORE SUFFERING. IT's NOT MYTHICAL, it's NOT MAGICAL, it's not A MIRACLE, ITS TRUTH!! THousands and thousands have died and suffered under religeon, theories that are taken literally and forced physically on societies. Theories and wonderful ideas that are TAKEN AS FACT. One day we will know more, maybe not in our lifetime but we are finding out more about our universe every day. Scientists have already begun to uncover and prove the existance of other universes. untill they do we're not going to base our LIVES on what they theorise about, just like we shouldn't base our every morality and life on religeous theories. IT is more dangerous and evil than anything else. BELEIF is what has driven people to kill masses at war, BELEIF is what gives us the excuse to do anything that in reality might be immoral but because we beleive 'its all in a good cause' or 'god wants me to' we think it's acceptable! To murder! To condone love and marriage! To stop families getting together and caring for each other at christmas time, even if they don't BELEIVE in something they don't know exists! To STOP THE CELEBRATION OF LIFE at birthdays! If birthdays are a bad experience for you, then you don't have to celebrate them, but don't inflinct that on others who may have previously enjoyed birthdays! IN the end it's all living. Going about our lives the best way we know how, and try to cease suffering in our world by PRACTICAL MEANS WHICH WE KNOW EXIST AND ARE PROVEN AS SHARPLY AS THE EYE CAN SEE THEM! To not think for yourself, to not feel the confidence and happiness that comes with making your own decisions for yourself, to question, to discuss ideas, to live for yourself and your family NOT AN ORGANISATION or a BOOK, that is sadness. And that sadness only adds to the evil hatred in our world.
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Last Days ? for ALL BIBLE BELIEVERS
by JT infor many of us who were perhaps like myself - a dyed in the wool society man/woman and very strong supporter of the "last days concept".. i have a question,-- below is just an example of the 14th century-.
can you name anytime in history since the day jesus and paul introduced the dogma of the last days where those who called themselves christians didn't believe that they were the ones who were suppose to get the fullfillment of the last days dogma?.
has there any been a time say in 800ad or 1215ad, etc---- where those who were believers taught that the last days would come not in thier time but further down the road long after they were dead and gone?.
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jane53
"I don't think about when the end will come......I believe it will, like all Christians but it is not a place to dwell. We don't know when...so we just live our lives as believers doing that daily stuff."
You're right, we, as human beings DONT know when 'the end' will come. Just like we DONT know if there will be an end, just like we DONT KNOW for sure if there is a god or if there isn't one. Not because we refuse to 'beleive' but because WE JUST DONT KNOW! WE KNOW that we are alive now. WE KNOW that we see through our eyes, hear with our ears, smell with our nose. WE KNOW that by giving blood we stop A PERSON FROM DYING. we KNOW that science has PROVEN with EVIDENCE that we EVOLVED AND SO DID ALL OTHER LIFE ON THE PLANET. IT IS TRUTH, NOT BELEIF. and whilst we can think about, fantasise, hypothesise, dream, think up ideas and theories, that is exactly what they are. Ideas, theories. THere MIGHT be a god. There might not. POint is, we all want the one thing, happiness and peaceful times for all. We want suffering to stop. with every disease cured or prevented by science, WE PREVENT AND STOP MORE SUFFERING. IT's NOT MYTHICAL, it's NOT MAGICAL, it's not A MIRACLE, ITS TRUTH!! THousands and thousands have died and suffered under religeon, theories that are taken literally and forced physically on societies. Theories and wonderful ideas that are TAKEN AS FACT. One day we will know more, maybe not in our lifetime but we are finding out more about our universe every day. Scientists have already begun to uncover and prove the existance of other universes. untill they do we're not going to base our LIVES on what they theorise about, just like we shouldn't base our every morality and life on religeous theories. IT is more dangerous and evil than anything else. BELEIF is what has driven people to kill masses at war, BELEIF is what gives us the excuse to do anything that in reality might be immoral but because we beleive 'its all in a good cause' or 'god wants me to' we think it's acceptable! To murder! To condone love and marriage! To stop families getting together and caring for each other at christmas time, even if they don't BELEIVE in something they don't know exists! To STOP THE CELEBRATION OF LIFE at birthdays! If birthdays are a bad experience for you, then you don't have to celebrate them, but don't inflinct that on others who may have previously enjoyed birthdays! IN the end it's all living. Going about our lives the best way we know how, and try to cease suffering in our world by PRACTICAL MEANS WHICH WE KNOW EXIST AND ARE PROVEN AS SHARPLY AS THE EYE CAN SEE THEM! To not think for yourself, to not feel the confidence and happiness that comes with making your own decisions for yourself, to question, to discuss ideas, to live for yourself and your family NOT AN ORGANISATION or a BOOK, that is sadness. And that sadness only adds to the evil hatred in our world.
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a little girl had to die for your beleif
by jane53 insad, sick and unmerciful you must be, to accept that a little girl's life is taken at just 15 when it could have been saved.
a book that hints blood transfusion is the work of the 'devil'.
a supernatural being that we don't know for certain exists.
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jane53
sad, sick and unmerciful you must be, to accept that a little girl's life is taken at just 15 when it could have been saved. And for what? For what? A book that hints blood transfusion is the work of the 'devil'. A supernatural being that we don't KNOW for CERTAIN exists. A girl has to die for mere 'faith' in what we don't know is true. Hundreds like her have died, the chance of living stripped from them as if it is a righteous and good thing. Perhaps you need to question your god! Even if he does exist don't you have the self confidence and morality to question why children have to die for this god! Can't you disagree with him! If the bible told you to commit evil acts would you not question that and be your own person on the issue! Well, guess what, you are asked to commit evil acts, and yet you commit them in the name of a good holy god! Children die when they could be saved, love is ripped apart because of your intolerance of other people who refuse to let a book rule their life! Horrendus sex crimes are commited by your followers that are so incredibly evil, and yet you do nothing, your 'elders' do nothing, because you let your beleif that jehova will deal with these offenders rule over the morality of stopping this person from commiting more evil. You ALLOW evil to take place, offenders within your community to reoffend in the name of goodness!!!!!!!!!!!!! You tear loving families apart when members are told they aren't allowed to be there for her sister on her birthday. A joyous, happy event for the whole family. Christmas time, when reletatives get together and share, talk, laugh, be happy, that is a good thing! It doesn't matter what a book says when you feel love for others and share it with them! The answer to stopping christmas from being a superficial, greedy time does not lie in banning it, but encouraging family values and not to spoil children and go over the top! Whether or not they CHOSE to believe in a supernatural spirit is up to them and they don't have to 'worship' what they don't know to be true if they don't want to!! By ruining birthdays for siblings, mothers and fathers, christmas for families and relatives, you ruin goodnes! You ruin happiness! And to me that is more evil than enjoying the time we have alive together, what we know and only know to be true.