I hope I am not hijacking this thread, if I am, please tell me and I will start another, but it's kinda on the subject. Did the Angels who materialized as human all materialize as males? If so why?
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Were the Nephilim sterile? Did they have offspring?
by AuldSoul in*** it-2 p. 492 nephilim *** .
increased wickedness.
the mighty ones who were of old, the men of fame that were produced by these marriages, were not men of fame with god, for they did not survive the flood, as did noah and his family.
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Bible stories swept under the carpet
by jgnat in.
i'll start.. judges 4:21 jeal drove a tent peg through the head of a sleeping king.. judges 19:29 a man cut up the body of his raped and murdered concubine and sent the twelve parts to the twelve tribes of israel.. .
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My personal favorite is the part where the Israelites have been living off Manna for so long they are sick of it and they start clammoring for meat. They apparently clammor so much (in much the same manner as Jesus later said to pray, i.e. incessently) that Joe Hober gets pissed and say, "Oh, so you want meat do ya? Wello, fine then, I'm gonna give yo so much meat it comes out your nose!" And the next thing they know, they're chest deep in Quail. What a riot!
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WHO IS JOB?
by GodisRight inthere is not any record of job observing the sabbath.
yet he is god's greatest servant?
was he a non israelite or did he live before the exodus of the isrealites from egypt when the sabbath covenant was made?
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GIR,
"11 As you know, we consider blessed those who have persevered. You have heard of Job's perseverance and have seen what the Lord finally brought about. The Lord is full of compassion and mercy. "
Kuh-rap! That's like a loan shark telling you he's gonna show you mercy " 'cuz I'm only goona break one of your knees."
It doesn't matter when JOB lived (although he does make some righteous rolling papers), whether he was an Amalikite or a Troglydite, of whether is was pre-post Exodus. The book is a piece of literature, and a damn good one at that. The problem has occurred because of its cannonization and the subsequent empty headed dorks who insist upon having to be literal.
"And whoever wrote Job created a lot of dangerous misconceptions about the way God operates and this book should have been among the non canonical apocrypha." Greendawn is absolutely correct. It is often amusing and telling to listen to the gyrations and flop flipping that people go thru attempting to explain, justify and, ultimately, apologize for the book JOB.
From the reasoning of those who point to Job being tested as proof the debbil is wrong, that man CAN keep his "integrity", and that if we wait long enough we'll all get a Hollywood ending ,that would mean that the Romans view of religion was the most correct. The Romans, inheriting (stealing?) from the Greeks, believed that we humans were just toys for the Gods to dick around with, i.e. we are here for their amusmnet. And, as such, we have no real "free will" except in only narrow, predetermined and prescribe ways.
Here's some questions if JOB is to be taken literally: was Job the first case, or were there a string of failures before him? If Job proved "faithful" (where perfect Adam didn't) then what f*ck is the point of all of the rest of history since then? Why would "God" be such a dickhead as to make a race of people from Abram (who was apparently as wealthy as Job, but with not near the heartaches) when Job seemed certainly to have more qualifications in the "faith" and "integrity" depts?
Who is Job? We are.
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God's Name... and Christ's
by AGuest inthis may be a repeat subject, but to go back and find a previous would require more time that i have at this moment.
the true name of the most holy one of israel is not "jehovah.
" the yodh... is not a "y", but a "j".
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LDH, delete all after 'care'.
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I just got hold of the WTS Aust branch 2005 Financial Report
by jwfacts inas mentioned in another thread, the watchtower bible & tract society of australia is refusing to give me my personal records, though i believe they are supposed to under the aust privacy act.
they claim to not be under the legislation, which exempts businesses with less than 3 million turnover.
anyway, i purchased their financial report that is lodged with asic to find out what the turnover is ($16million).
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jwfacts,
If you truely have what you say that you have, you had best be careful. I'm not sure how many USA papers would love to get ahold of what you have, but I can only imagine what the NYT would do with that. The extrapolation to US interests is easy. Remember, at least in the good ol' US of A, every tax-free dollar is worth about 3 in the real world. You do the math. What you have is the WTS (or any "modern" religion, for that matter) by the "short hairs". If the R&F were to "discover" those figures there would be a moment of elation as they thought how much "Jehovah had blessed them" and then the truth would begin to set in. The "charities" are so low because that is information that is easily attainable in the states (and, apparently, Canada) but the rest of it is so telling. Would Judas had sold out for 30 shitty pieces of silver if he had been part of the WTS?
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There actually is ONE thing I can thank the WTS for.............
by Frannie Banannie ini finally figured out that there is one thing i can thank them for.
you see, because they are so rigid, dogmatic and unmerciful in their teachings, doctrines and practices, when i finally realized they are wrong, it made me begin to examine the alleged holy scriptures authored by religious leaders from the past and to finally see that it's all man-made.
when i believed strongly in bible writings, my view of reality was skewed effectively as a consequence.
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Yes, it is off of her "Medusa" CD. I would upload it to you but I think the board would have a cow (besides not letting me). Do you want the lyrics? If you have an email addr I would send it to you that way, provided you could recv it . It's 5.3 Mb in mp3 format.
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Barf Quote
by cosmic ini read a thread recently by stillawitness in which this person mentioned a "barf quote".
the term didn't seem extraordinary at the outset, but, throughout the day, i kept giggling and chortling over the term.
people would ask me what was "so funny", and all i could say was, "barf quote".
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I read a thread recently by StillAWitness in which this person mentioned a "Barf Quote". The term didn't seem extraordinary at the outset, but, throughout the day, I kept giggling and chortling over the term. People would ask me what was "so funny", and all I could say was, "Barf Quote". Is that an recognized, bonafide, certified description of WTS Drivel? If not, it should be.
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Need Therapy from the Watchtower?
by Lady Liberty inuntil recently i used to be just a lurker.
but since i began posting, i am finding it very theraputic!
seems getting out my feelings, and sharing with others my experiences, and the things i personally have discovered, is helping me alot!
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Lady Lib,
Does your arm get tired holding that thing up in the air? Now you know why psychologists reccommend group therapy. What's really cool is when you say something "controversial" and everybody jumps your shite for it. And you get to come right back, and...nothing happens. Wow, these people are all here to learn too! Could the original disciples have been any different?
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There actually is ONE thing I can thank the WTS for.............
by Frannie Banannie ini finally figured out that there is one thing i can thank them for.
you see, because they are so rigid, dogmatic and unmerciful in their teachings, doctrines and practices, when i finally realized they are wrong, it made me begin to examine the alleged holy scriptures authored by religious leaders from the past and to finally see that it's all man-made.
when i believed strongly in bible writings, my view of reality was skewed effectively as a consequence.
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Frannie, you are a beautiful creature. Have you ever heard Annie Lennox's "Waiting In Vain"?
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Circuit Overseers Are On a Pledge Drive
by Severus injehovah's witnesses will be experiencing a special treat during their co (circuit overseer) visit this season: a bona-fide pledge drive.. during the thursday night meeting the normal co talk will instead be a video entitled:.
building kingdom halls advances true worship.
this 30-minute advances video is well produced and explains the watchtower society's program to build simplified kingdom halls in third-world and poor countries were materials and funds are scarce.. interviews and footage focus on south america, africa and eastern europe.
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Please, dont tell me these aholes are gonna interrupt NOVA for money too?