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  Full Text Newsweek Article "Witness to S...

  by Cappuccino OC in

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  witness to shame

  newsweek; new york; jun 24, 2002; julie scelfo; .

  volume: 139issue: 25start page: 81issn: 00289604subject terms: scandals.

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  DB

  This week's Newsweek (July 8) has a letter to the editor that says:

  "Thank you for your coverage of the sex-abuse scandal taking place within the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society ("Witness To Shame" June 24). I have been an active Jehovah's Witness for 30 years. I have suffered the overbearing conrol of the elders for many years. While I still belive in the theology, I seriously question the God-anointed authority of the ones in power now. This need to be exposed so that memebers are protected."
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  Heat Advisory: Philadelphia Assembly Next Weekend

  by Room 215 in

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  calling all dubbies in the middle atlantic states unlucky enough to have been assigned to the annual sauna in philly july 11-13.. as the u.s, northeast bakes in sweltering heat and debilitating humidity, what greater first-hand evidence can you find of bethel's callous indifference to your well-being than their persistence in scheduling these pointless hum-drum events in such a notorious blast-furnace environment as vets stadium, when just across the street, at the spectrum, and in countless other venues, air-conditioned auditoriums are readily available to them?

  repeated, public warnings in the media of the health hazard to the very young and elderly posed by such conditions fall on deaf ears in brooklyn.

  cancel?

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  I was going to attend one day at The Sweat.....but now, no days at all. Couple the heat with the parking and traffic woes due to occur because of new stadium construction, and there's no way i'm going near the place.
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  My surreal district convention

  by RunningMan in

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  well, i just got back from yet another summer ass-marathon.

  seventeen hours of sitting in hockey arena seats that were made for three hour games, trying to stay awake, while not losing contact with my extremities.. needless to say, the program was dull and boring.

  in fact, i'm not completely sure that they didnt just re-run last year's.

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  Runningman, this was a great post, love the 'jehoagie!' and fun commentary.

  We normally attend in Philadelphia, but have just decided to skip it (we were orignally planning to attend one day, maybe two at most). Every year, there is a hassle with parking, virtual heat exhaustion of being in Sweateran's Stadium, traffic, and who knows what else. Well, this year there is, on top of all the usual garbage, construction going on with a new Eagles stadium, which takes up a good portion of the Vet parking lot. More traffic and parking woes await. So we're bagging it. Even in my jw halcion days the convention left me an emotional wreck; I'm not about to go through that again.

  So thank you and some of the others here who have been logging in the torturous hours!
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  News in KM , dfd,

  by happy man in

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  we have a bigg artikel in km abot our wuie on how to treat them in diffrent situations, not so much new things, but they confirm this harder treatment on dfd, as we have 1981.. not so happy for this, i think it is a bigg misstake to dont take this occasion to change to some more loving wuie.i can not follow why they do like this perhaps they are draw this to the end of the lione, but who are take the punnish for this, if not the averge jw, who i think dont like this so very much.. so i can not follow who they think, perhaps we have wolfs among us, who hurt ther members.. .

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  back in the late 1980s, while I was reaching out to become and MS, an elder approached me about my association w my df'd mom (she baby-sat for us while we worked). I explained the baby-sit situation and he said fine, but that i should be careful to curtail all other association w her.

  When I told her about this, and my desire to please the elders (brothers reaching out will do anything to please the elders), she took steps to be reinstated, even though she maintained her innocence privately.

  After she was reinstated, she told me that the only reason she went back was that she was afraid to lose me as a son. Love for God and the organization had nothing to do with it. And that is the case with so many who are df'd, as so many of you well know and/or have seen for yourselves.

  Edited by - DB on 2 July 2002 11:40:54
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  Local news article lists jw beliefs

  by DB in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  an article appearing in a local newspaper featured the building of a local kingdom hall.

  next to the article, a seperate column liste some beliefs of jehovah's witnesses, after stating briefly who they are and how they originated.. the article then listed their beliefs as follows:.

  only jehovah's witnesses can be saved.

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  Thanks for the replies,

  Golden, I will check if your e-mail is listed as open and contact you with that info.

  Razor, I am not sure, but because the names of certain jws appeared in the accompanying article, I figured it would be best not to post the article iteslf.
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  Local news article lists jw beliefs

  by DB in

  1. jw
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  an article appearing in a local newspaper featured the building of a local kingdom hall.

  next to the article, a seperate column liste some beliefs of jehovah's witnesses, after stating briefly who they are and how they originated.. the article then listed their beliefs as follows:.

  only jehovah's witnesses can be saved.

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  An article appearing in a local newspaper featured the building of a local Kingdom Hall. Next to the article, a seperate column liste some beliefs of Jehovah's Witnesses, after stating briefly who they are and how they originated.

  The article then listed their beliefs as follows:

  Only Jehovah's Witnesses can be saved

  Just 144,000 go to heaven to rule with Christ

  A paradise on Earth is available for good witnesses

  There's no hell. The unsaved are just annihilated.

  The end of the world began in 1914

  They DON'T:

  Observe hoildays, except Christ's death

  Serve in the military

  Salute the flag

  Celebrate birthdays

  Take blood transfusions

  Baptize infants; only those with enough knowledge to be worthy are baptized

  Smoke

  Get Drunk

  Have priests, rituals or crosses

  They DO:

  Call their places of worship Kingdom Halls

  Meet regularly to study the bible

  Require members to do 10 hours of house-to-house evangelizing each month

  Pay taxes

  .......The 10 hours is not a typo, that's what the article said.

  I wonder if such a list can only hurt, not help, the Witnesses in this case. Not many people would appreciate reading that "Only Jehovah's Witnesses can be saved", or that they must get 10 hours in service per month (though this is somewhat mistaken, since 10 hours is the US national average that they push for, while 1 hour is the actual requirement).

  Do you agree/disagree that most people reading this article would find at least some of these beliefs to be unappealing?
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  Watching my parents age and die.....

  by LDH in

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  i just posted this on teejay's thread, but in case some didn't read that thread i will repost it here, the enhanced version, because i believe it deserves its own thread.. recently, my parents visited with me.

  (the great apostate, can you believe it?).

  technically, they were here to visit my kids and husband, as i am df'd [8>].

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  Very touching Lisa, thanks for telling us.

  My mom and dad are both using walkers. My mom has had two fractures due to osteoporosis. My dad is just very weak, period. They are both 82. We have to take turns going over to their house and caring for their needs. Needless to say, having been a jw for 29 years, I never thought I'd see my parents like this.
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  A Plea For Responsible Reporting

  by hillary_step in

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  many hundreds of people read this site who are not subscribed, and i would suspect that the vast majority are jw's looking for answers to an internal turmoil that they may be living with.. the information posted on this board does get read and then passed among many congregations of jw's.

  this information is a powerful force and is a wonderful thing for those who are seeking to be informed, and a not so wonderful thing to those in brooklyn who are seeking to harness the boundaries of knowledge.. given this scenario, and how much credibility can be lost by xjw's who perpetuate gossip and innuendo, can we check our sources and facts very carefully before we post information to this board.

  there is no particular nobility in being first with news about some aspect of wts life.

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  Good post Hillary...some food for thought.
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  does anyone else have problems dating??

  by eyegirl in

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  2. friends

  i'm fairly new to leaving the borg (about a year and a half).

  just wondering if anyone else has had a hard time adjusting to dating in the real world?

  i don't go by the whole 'we better not date unless we're ready to get married'.

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  Hi eye,

  My daughter is permitted by my wife and I to date, despite the fact that we are jws. She is seeing a guy in the congregation. She is not ready for marriage, nor is he.

  Many, many jw youths are dating jws and non-jws behind their parents backs.

  We feel that the expectation of no dating until ready for marriage is not realistic. It may be a fine ideal, but reality seems to show that jw youths are in many cases simply not going to wait that long. We'd rather have our child dating with our consent and our monitoring her activities than to be doing it behind our backs.

  We have considered the fact that she is young and that such relationships seldom result in marriage. However, we also feel that by allowing her some latitude in this regard, we are hopeful that she will learn some practical lessons on dating and relationships. It's a tough call that can go either way, but we feel that we have made a good choice.
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  Hi I'm new

  by bonovox in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok, so i kinda stumbled onto this site.

  i have many questions, but first a bit about myself:.

  i was born and raised in the truth.

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  DB

  Welcome Bono!

  I am an active jw as well. I come here because I do have questions and comments that I dare not make on a board used exclusively by jws. Such matters cannot be discussed freely in the congregation either.

  I have met some fine folks here, and I have discovered that, as you alluded to, there are people here who love God but who have some major problems with the jw faith. You'll find all kinds of backrounds and attitudes here, and I find that to be a good thing. Yes, there are times when the discussions are not as well "balanced" as a jw might wish for, but overall, I like this board alot. Like Violet said, I too can't seem to stay away for long.

  Have a great day!...p.s.....I also post under the name jack2

  "Without compassion, there can be no end to hate" - Billy Joel