Posts by sparky1

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converting to catholic

by SloppyMcFloppy in

hello i was wondering if any ex jw have converted to catholic?

i have been tossing the idea around a bit and wondering if it was woth it from personal experience?

thoughts?

sparky1

Tom Cabeen converted to the Catholic Church. You can contact him here:

www.watchtowerworld.org/TomCabeen.htm

David Brown converted to Orthodoxy. You can contact him here:

https://orthocath.wordpress.com

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Elders now ORDERED by the Org to fleece the sheep

by The Searcher in

the org is now demanding money from the witnesses, via the latest letter sent to elders regarding the circuit's excess funds.

succeeded in getting elders everywhere to hand over their own congregation's "excess funds" - now their circuit's bank balances are going to be plundered.. the spineless and subservient elders will cooperate without a whimper, because they're afraid of losing their little bit of power which the org has bestowed upon them.

(john 11:48).

sparky1

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Is this the earliest WT reference to 1975?

by Splash in

i thought that the 1975 thing started in the mid to late 60's, but it seems the seeds were sown two decades earlier.is this the earliest reference to it?.

18 how many today are awake to the fact that the lord christ jesus, by his resurrection of the faithful bride members that slept in death, is taking his "bride" unto his father's house and the marriage of the lamb has begun' .... they do not say, 'it is a long time yet to the wind-up, and, according to the present understanding of bible chronology, six thousand years of human history will end first in the coming seventies and till then it is a long stretch to serve the lord continuously and undividedly.'.

... they keep their eye and heart on jehovah's kingdom, and not on the time clock.

sparky1

Superimposed fictitious dating was instrumental and exploited many times by this religious publishing organization.

My point exactly. C.T. Russell FAILED, Judge Rutherford FAILED and now it was Fred Franz's turn for FAILURE

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Is this the earliest WT reference to 1975?

by Splash in

i thought that the 1975 thing started in the mid to late 60's, but it seems the seeds were sown two decades earlier.is this the earliest reference to it?.

18 how many today are awake to the fact that the lord christ jesus, by his resurrection of the faithful bride members that slept in death, is taking his "bride" unto his father's house and the marriage of the lamb has begun' .... they do not say, 'it is a long time yet to the wind-up, and, according to the present understanding of bible chronology, six thousand years of human history will end first in the coming seventies and till then it is a long stretch to serve the lord continuously and undividedly.'.

... they keep their eye and heart on jehovah's kingdom, and not on the time clock.

sparky1

It looks to me like someone was laying the 'foundation' for their 'failed legacy' as soon as the Judge dropped dead!

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What is the alternative to JW?

by Formerbrother in

i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

the the bible is word?

sparky1

The question for me was not, 'what IS the alternative to Jehovah's Witnesses?' but rather what ARE the alternatives to Jehovah's Witnesses?. Having been raised in the religion and never really believing it, I have had to continually ask myself that question. My life became a continual process of self discovery and discovery of whats 'out there'. The final destination in life is death. Stop worrying about the destination and enjoy the process. Since I have Libertarian leanings, I always seek out a Libertarians opinion. Thomas Szasz is my favorite Libertarian. I share this quote with you in hopes that it will help you as it has helped me: "If you truly yearn to be free, you must first recognize all the ways you are unfree. Only after constructing a complete catalogue of the constraints upon you can you begin to consider which ones you can and want to diminish or eliminate and at what cost (to you and others you cherish). Your self-liberation will be complete when you are left with constraints to which you willingly, perhaps even eagerly, submit." Good luck, Formerbrother.

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How did Matthew Use the Word "Generation"?

by BluesBrother in

another "generation" thread....i know!

when splane wanted a scripture that demonstrated the bible's use of the word he went all the way back to moses and used ex.

1.6. he could have stayed in the same book and used matthew chapter 1,written by the same hand.

sparky1

It appears that the Governing Body (tm) may have 'stolen' the overlapping generations idea from the study of Economics. There is a theory called the "Overlapping Generations Model" in Economic Theory. Just Google Overlapping Generations Model and you will be surprised at what you find. It appear that the 'rulers' of Jehovah's Witnesses have never had an original thought starting with Pastor Russell right down to our day.

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Scriptures that will never be the YEAR TEXT

by ttdtt in

so what scriptures do you think will never make the cut?i will start off with one to warm you all up.. 1 corinthians 4:6 - do not go beyond the things that are written,.

sparky1

COME TO BETHEL AND COMMIT TRANSGRESSION - Amos 4:4

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Merry Pantsmas Everyone!

by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

okay, i posted this in a thread that got locked and buried.

since then i've been really busy and have overdosed on christmas music in the past week.

so, i'm resurrecting this "holy day" holiday that most people will unknowingly be celebrating tomorrow.

sparky1

"Maybe the Governing Body (tm) should reconsider our ban on Christmas. If we renamed it Pantsmas the friends would eat it up as new light. Speaking of 'eating it up'..............."- Tony'Tight Pants' Morris

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YMCA ? Are we allowed to go there or not?

by Quarterback in

half of our congregation goes there to work out because of the good pool facilities and prices, and the other half think that it's wrong due to it's old charter.

but no one is enforcing the wrong or right of it.

i'd be interested in knowing how this is being applied worldwide.

sparky1

Don't forget to stop at GOODWILL and pick up some new bathing attire to wear at the pool at the Y.M.C.A. The Reverend Edgar J. Helms, founder of GOODWILL, would be happy for your donation.

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Why didn't Jehovah know the flood wouldn't work?

by OverlappingGeneralizations in

this has been something that is bugging me lately-.

jehovah is all knowing.

he knows that to do away with evil, he has to do away with satan.

sparky1

Jehovah is always a sucker for a good, suspenseful, violent human interest story. Take for example Job, or the slaughtering of the Egyptians or Sampson. He foreknew a good story when he saw it, let it play out, killed the participants and then he couldn't wait for the novel to be written. The Flood itself was just a 'minor wrinkle' in the history of mankind.