there is an inherent founding association with paganism through and by the founding leader of the watchtower corporation that has to be realized and accepted as such.
c t russell was once the head editorial writer for the wts.
right up until his death in 1916. russell had associated himself with freemasons for awhile, giving talks at freemason halls and handing out literature he published at the same time.. he made up more or less a commercialized version of the gospel based upon a new era for mankind which he calculated by measuring the dimensions of the great pyramid of giza.
Russell 'stole' his pyramid 'theology' from C. Piazzi Smyth who was the author of the book: OUR INHERITANCE IN THE GREAT PYRAMID printed in 1864. Russell adapted his own interpretation to the measurements of the passageways inside the pyramid; yet he kept Smyth's theory of 'pyramid inches' in order to make 'prophetic' calculations based on a 'day for an inch' .
i can't remember where i first heard about this movie but it was recently.
i guess they even showed it on tv.
probably payed for like an infomercial.. anyway, i looked it up on youtube and viola!.
I was about 11 years old when this came out. It was even shown in private homes to small groups of witnesses and their families. After seeing this film, each time I heard a locker door slam in school the catchphrase "peace of mind and self respect" would run through my mind! I can't believe that Max Larsen and George Couch played 'loving' and concerned fathers in this film. Having been a Bethelite I learned that George Couch was as mean as a snake and Max Larsen always seemed cold and aloof. They never were fathers in real life but 'they played one on tv'. (Actually, I knew that George Couch was a jerk even before I became a Bethelite.)
first, i've been out of the organization for 20 years this very year!
i was baptized in 1979 and attended one of the lancaster ohio congregations.
realizing i was gay, i left and after being in the columbus gay community for 6 months, decided bar hopping and cruising was not my cup o' tea.i decided to return in late '90 and was reinstated in '91.
Welcome........and thanks for the introduction story.
i was at the meeting last night and the dreadful video about caleb and sparlock was forced upon the audience.
honestly, i had forgotten how bad it was.
the mother's manipulative over-reaction and caleb's acceptance that his toy was evil.
This whole Sparlock bull$hit reminds me of what happened to me as a child. My beloved (non witness) grandfather bought me a toy army jeep like the one pictured. That same night I was playing with it on the bedroom floor and my mother asked me what I was doing. I told her that I was playing airport baggage transportation like at Logan airport. One of the 'servants' at our hall had that exact job and I told her that was what I was playing in my imagination. She called me a liar and said that I was playing war and that Jehovah hates war. The she proceeded to throw away my brand new toy and banish me to bed. End of discussion. I have to agree with Doubtfully Yours above about the paranoid action of many witness parents. All my mother had to do was say 'that's great Sparky. I'm glad you are not playing war. Tomorrow we can go to the hobby store and buy a 19 cent container of paint and paint over all the army emblems. Then you can continue with your fun. You know that your grandfather loves you very much and he would really enjoy seeing you have so much fun.' The reality in 'Witness World' is far removed from any propaganda video on JW.tv.org!
so i was checking out the website to see what the february broadcast was all about before i watched it with my jw wife.. on the front page was this video.... https://tv.jw.org/#en/video/vodbible/pub-jwbai_201607_1_video.
i watched it and pretended i had never been a jw.. if you pretend you don't understand their particular language it makes for a interesting (if not vague) watch.. btw i've seen several of the actors before.
jw version of movie stars?
This kid is a real DORK! When I was 15 years old I used to climb out of my second story bedroom window onto another roof in the middle of the night. From there I would jump to the ground and walk down to the local bowling alley to see the 3 girls that I was 'friends' with. Grow some 'nads sonny and stop being such a wimp!
so i was checking out the website to see what the february broadcast was all about before i watched it with my jw wife.. on the front page was this video.... https://tv.jw.org/#en/video/vodbible/pub-jwbai_201607_1_video.
i watched it and pretended i had never been a jw.. if you pretend you don't understand their particular language it makes for a interesting (if not vague) watch.. btw i've seen several of the actors before.
jw version of movie stars?
After watching this............I'M SPEECHLESS
steve2: is there some way this can be presented so that it is crystal clear what was actually in the demonstrations and what was added?
i guess some will think it should be obvious - but this is where misunderstandings arise because we end up wrongly attributing something to jw organization that was never said.. circuit assembly theme: maintain love for jehovah!.
note to speaker: warmly encourage young ones to prove their friendship with jehovah by observing his commandments and defending his standards.
And the assembly demonstration continues.............
Emily: I think that we should get a guy's opinion on this.
Hannah: Have at it. Here comes Sparky. Why don't you ask him how he feels about this.
Emily: Hey Sparky........we want to ask you something.
Sparky: Sure, girls? What's up?
Emily: What do you think of lesbians?
Sparky: I think they're great!
Hannah: Gasp.................eeeww.
Emily: That's kind of cool..........why do you feel that way?
Sparky: Because they like what I like..................WOMEN!
Hannah: Gross! Whatever........I'm outta here.
hi on the jw broadcast site they have about 5 days ago put up a special video about how people should fogive and if they dont they will become bitter.
do you think the watchtower know how many court cases around the world they have got coming up this coming year .
"The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naïve forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget." - Thomas Szasz
i grew up in the org and never got baptised, however i was wondering recently about how much money my family and old friends are wasting in all that.
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i remember of course never talking in amounts, that it was important to give from what you can not what you have etc but i admit i have no clue how much the average witness gives (say in % of their income).. i'm sure it varies greatly, i'd love to hear what you guys have to say..
The last time I donated was in 1990
Local Congregation: $50.00 to $100.00 per month
Worldwide Work: $50.00 to $100.00 per month
Total: $100.00 to $200.00 per month
There is no accounting for stupidity.
i am currently reading the new history of the holocaust by british historian laurence rees and it reminded me of a comment in the awake!
magazine i read years ago and trusted as factual.
i quote both passages without comment.
"In the 1930's the regime made sure the concentration camps were reported in the press, held them up for praise, and proudly let it be known that the men and women in the camps were confined without trial on the orders of the police. ..........................The novelist Christa Wolf indicated some years ago, that anyone in NAZI Germany who wanted to find out about the Gestapo, concentration camps, and the campaigns of discrimination and persecution, need only read the newspapers." - BACKING HITLER: CONSENT AND COERCION IN NAZI GERMANY by Robert Gellately (Introduction)
The NAZI'S didn't need Judge Rutherford to expose (and take credit for such exposure) the detention/concentration camps to the world. The Germans were proud enough of them and quite capable of introducing to the world their 'unique' penal system in their own media.
