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  Legal Question

  by Caveat in

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  for our resident lawyers and those familiar with the law anywhere but specially on the us.

  can a parent legally forbid a son from being baptized until he becomes an adult (legal age)?.

  jws usually baptize their children when they are in their early teens, can an unbelieving parent do something legal to prevent this?.

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  looking_glass

  Still the best analogy I can think of is a Marriage. If you plan to marry while underage you need the written consent of one of the parents.

  Can a refusal somehow stop or delay the process while the local elders get advice from the legal department?

  Although I am not an expert in this area of law, the analogies that have been used are incorrect and my guess would be the answer is simply no.

  First marriage is governed by laws that are in place, hence the need to obtain permission for under aged marriage. As for a "contract" last I know of, when you get btzd there is nothing you are signing and my guess is getting btzd is not the same as entering into a verbal contract. You are answering questions, but they are not questions you are being asked to swear to, you are not providing a witness statement nor are you giving a deposition.

  Again, my quick response w/o doing research is no. You may find someone here that has actually looked into it and they may have an answer. Regardless, I would want the back up, just in case you have to fight the issue. Make sure they have your state correct and they provide with either the Statute that is appropriate and/or case law.
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  What Do Men & Women Want From Each Other???

  by minimus in

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  i recently read of a survey regarding unhappy wives.

  it seems that nearly most women wouldn't do it all over again with the same man.

  they were unhappy for various reasons.

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  looking_glass

  I got my own monies, I don't need a dude's.

  As for what I want, here is a saying that to me makes perfect sense ... Make love to a woman's mind and you have access to the rest of her body. Let's start there!
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  USA FOOTBALL PLAYOFFS

  by SWALKER in

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  the colts just beat the chiefs!

  i'd like to see peyton manning win a super bowl ring!

  swalker.

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  Yes, I think the love mister will. He has not given the other QB a chance to warm up enough to play the important games. Grossman has given them some ups and downs, but I think the Love man has faith in him (I am not sure why). Grossman is too much of a mystery to know if he will be a consistent player. The other problems you have are the on-going issues with the other teams players. Tank has his issues, which still are a problem due to the judicial order he is under. Granted it will only be a problem if they travel, but still, he is clearly distracted. All I have to say is ... where is Walter when we need him. I loved that guy!!!
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  USA FOOTBALL PLAYOFFS

  by SWALKER in

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  the colts just beat the chiefs!

  i'd like to see peyton manning win a super bowl ring!

  swalker.

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  looking_glass

  Ahh get over it confused!

  Hey, as for Chicago, I am a Bears fan. But I am also a realist. I don't think they will win if Grossman plays. He sucks. They have lucked out on too many occasions and yet he keeps coming back after making some lame arse excuse for his screw ups.

  all the same GO BEARS!
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  Can we talk? . . .

  by exwitless in

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  hey, this is under jokes and humor, so don't get too offended.

  i just wanted to vent about how people say things incorrectly, such as pronouncing things wrong or saying phrases wrong.

  i'll start, and if you have any to add, please feel free.

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  looking_glass

  I was working with a colleague today and she said "member when you did such and such". When did we stop saying "remember", its not like it gets us quicker to our destination if we say "member" instead of "remember". I catch myself saying it as well. But of course when I gave my friend grief, I never fessed up to that.

  Also, when did "funner" become a word. WTF! I know I have been out of school for a while, but when news agencies start using it in story lines, I am greatly disturbed!
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  JW and reasoning?

  by looking_glass in

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  so the same jw chick who sent me the whole urban legend of the people who wanted to adopt a kid and then just happened to adopt a kid whose jw parents died and he was looking for jw parents and i were talking last night.. so i am talki'n to this chick and she asks about inactive jw friend and i say she and her new non-jw hubby are do'n really well.

  of course jw chick finds this hard to believe because of the whole "unevenly yoked" crap.

  so of course this irritates me and i say .. how many jw marriages do we know that have ended in divorce?

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  looking_glass

  So the same JW chick who sent me the whole urban legend of the people who wanted to adopt a kid and then just happened to adopt a kid whose JW parents died and he was looking for JW parents and I were talking last night.

  So I am talki'n to this chick and she asks about inactive JW friend and I say she and her new non-JW hubby are do'n really well. Of course JW chick finds this hard to believe because of the whole "unevenly yoked" crap. So of course this irritates me and I say .. how many JW marriages do we know that have ended in divorce? now how many "worldly" people divorces do we know of? I went thru the list. But the classic ... wait for it ......... She said that the reason the JWs that I named ended in divorce but the JW person who married a "worldly" person is still together is because Satan is putting more pressure on the JWs then he is on the "worldly" people.

  Really it made me laugh and I said to her ... so in other words worldly people are just screwed because Jah does not want them and Satan does not want them (at least based on your theory).

  She chuckled and we changed the subject
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  Pre-Paid Legal...

  by rolling rock in

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  anybody know anything about this service or have/use it???

  please share any info you know about it... thanks chad...

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  looking_glass

  Is that like a pre paid calling card?

  Sorry, just thought I would be funny. I too am in IL and it is not really a service that is acceptable in this state. So I second Whitney's suggestions. You local bar association should know. If it is not a large firm, but a solo practitioner, check with your local ARDC and confirm that the atty is an atty w/ no prior bad acts in his closet. Also, most states that require licensing have various departments that oversee them (example ARDC) see if there are other governmental depts that would regulate the service. I say, you can never do enough back ground checks on a service.

  Just remember, if it sounds too good to be true, that usually means it is too good to be true.
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  Could someone be amassing a personal fortune at Watchtower land?

  by Gill in

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  how sure can we be that no one or even two or more jw is amassing a personal fortune at the expense of the watchtower slaves and the watchtower society?.

  locally, there was an elder who was able to have affairs with three different women, including his wife for thirty years.

  during that same time he had his hand in the contribution box to keep his business going.. we're talking thirty years here.. i agree with many posts here that the legal dept actually run the wtbts now and not the governing body.

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  looking_glass

  I am sure it happens. I think it is more likely for a "trusted" bro/sister to take advantage of an older or less wise JW that might have some dough. Think about the cases that have been in the news recently about the broker who was a JW that stole from his clients, a number of which were JWs. However, I think stealing from the hall may be a little harder, only because I could see the WTBTS not putting up w/ that for too long, because that means money out of their own pocket.

  As for the WTBTS, the corporation is amassing a fortune not because the R&F are giving every week, but because the ones that thought they would be living forever are now dying off. Those older ones who either never got married or never had kids in order to do the preaching work because the end was neigh, were "encouraged" to leave money to the WTBTS and since there were no family members to contest the bequeath, presto, WTBTS has got thousands coming in on a regular basis from the death of wealthy JWs. My personal example is a family member whose husband had a ton of money and she got it upon his death, she willed most of her wealth to the society, which included a very diverse portfolio of stocks and bonds. Its like winning the lottery on a regular basis.
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  QUESTIONS FROM READERS----CHECK THIS OUT!

  by Mary in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  seeing as i have the wt in front of me today, i thought you'd enjoy the questions from readers from the february 15, 2007 article on the evils and pagan origins on toasting or clinking of glasses.

  the article specifically mentions how not everything today that was of pagan origin is necessarily bad, and sites "wedding rings" as being of pagan origin, but it's not viewed like that now.

  then, incredibly, they go on and say that while toasting might not be considered a religious practice today, there's "good reason" for christians to avoid it------without giving any valid reason why other than: do as we say:.

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  looking_glass

  Come on Nark, as we all know the WTBTS is all about revisionist history (like a lot of American school history books). Why in world if they found out about the clinking coming from something other than a "pagan origin" would they ever fess up to it.
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  QUESTIONS FROM READERS----CHECK THIS OUT!

  by Mary in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  seeing as i have the wt in front of me today, i thought you'd enjoy the questions from readers from the february 15, 2007 article on the evils and pagan origins on toasting or clinking of glasses.

  the article specifically mentions how not everything today that was of pagan origin is necessarily bad, and sites "wedding rings" as being of pagan origin, but it's not viewed like that now.

  then, incredibly, they go on and say that while toasting might not be considered a religious practice today, there's "good reason" for christians to avoid it------without giving any valid reason why other than: do as we say:.

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  looking_glass

  I had been to a jw wedding not to long ago and there was toasting and I asked one of the active JWs about it and they had said it was a conscious (I know I am not spelling that the JW way, but I cannot remember it, but anyways) matter. So it must have gotten back to the WTBTS that the dubs were starting to stray and they needed to reign them back in. Let's strain the gnat about this crap but let's stick to the whole 2 witness rule to allegations of molestation.