how many members of the governing body are married to women a lot younger than themselves, and how many are married to 'hot chicks'?
Well I say, you boys are entitled to as much eye candy as you want.
Thankfully, we chicks also have access to all the free eye candy we want now that we are not bound by the chains that tied us. Ahh, the boys out there that are into us chicks, how lovely is that memory.
i had begun to read schnell's book when we first left - but in the 'fresh out of the borg' mental state, i had found it too caustic.
now i am reading it and find it quite interesting due to the time frame - in judge rutherford's era.. one of the premises that he states repeatedly in the book, took me by surprise.
i would be curious if any could confirm/deny the reality of his accusations here.
Hmm, it has been such a long time since I have read many of the books of people who have left being a JW. However, there was a site that I found not too long ago ... I think it was a site of someone who was doing a thesis on JWs. They looked into the historical accuracy of many of the books written by exiting JWs. Boy I wish I could remember where I say that .... Anyone here know what I am talking about???? I think that site would help you because he gave a lot of information about the author and the books contents. Boy this is going to drive me nuts. If I can find the site, I will post it's address.
how many members of the governing body are married to women a lot younger than themselves, and how many are married to 'hot chicks'?
It seems to me that once the geezer loses his long time wife that regardless of whether they are GB, DO, CO or PO, they find themselves a younger woman. I always assumed it was because the religion seems to be heavy with chicks but lacking in men. Growing up my GFs and I always had an on going joke that the guys in our area would go to assemblies to gather their fan base and then work their way thru them. There was one good looking guy who we swore would gather all the chicks around his age and line them up and say "I will take you, I will take you, NOT you, etc."
something i came across via email.
there has been a lot of change recently; we had the announcement a few months> '> back that there would be a large reduction of personnel in the us bethel because of [the] new efficient equipment and also lots of the work has shifted to other branches.
jehovah's chariot keeps moving forward.
Active - I noticed that you are an "active" witness but do not have "faith in the organization". I think you will find many here that feel the same as you.
As for the posting, I guess I am wondering how you feel about it? To me it seems the same as always.
Often times things that are of consequence are down played and other things are hearlded (the Gilead grads). I am sure the grads were very excited as many of them have wanted and worked for this for a long time. However, for many of the average JWs this is just a side note to their lives. Most JWs are the worker bees of the world, getting up, going to work, going home, trying to maintain a family with all its stresses all the while trying to keep clean in the eyes of the org.
My heart breaks for those lifers who gave up a lot to go to Bethel until the end of the system of things. If the WTBTS had been an corporation set up like other American corps, they would have been in the news by now, with people calling for changes. But religion is different isn't it. It should be different, but in a good way. Not in a way that makes people live in a strange place, making minimum wage, no health insurance, and with no hope to save money for their retirement (sorry but you cannot tell me that people can pioneer for the rest of their lives, as we all grow old and die, even JWs).
Again welcome to the board.
i was wondering.... my mother and i are working together.
we have a little daycare at home and i see her everyday.
she and i are working really hard to try and get my jw dad to think.. and yesterday she asked him if it would still be okay for her to work with me (an apostate) if she went back to the jws again.
It is my understanding that you can work with an ex-JW as long as you do not discuss spiritual matters. However, if the JW feels that their spirituality is at stake they are encouraged to find another job. What is funny about this is the persecution complex, so of course every JW feels put upon to have to work with non-JWs, ex-JWs, apostates, any one other then someone who agrees with the WTBTS regardless of whether they are a JW or not.
im leaving the board, and am compelled to announce it.
but there are a few things i want to say first -- some recollections that (perhaps incongruously) seem germane to my leave-taking of jw.com.
1) my first post was also my first thread, written in the summer of 2000 (on h2o, actually).
besides, swan-songs are so corny
I have to agree w/ LT. I always wondered by people did that. Almost as a way to get attention? Or do they feel that they owe a duty to those on the board? I guess I am all about the slow fade regardless of what it is.
Also, I agree w/ the poster who said it seems like more of the "I am done, therefore I am gone mentality". Again, more black and white. Is it all or nothing? I cannot imagine it is so. But then again, I am all about the shades of gray, as it has been my favorite color all along.
amongst my things...i forgot they listed the weekend days with a to do - in service... .
ugh!
i'm pulling my hair out!
I bet the pictures are the same that they use today. And if there are people, they are dressed the same w/ the same book bags and stuff from stoops like is shown all the calendars. What a happy, shiney people.
the last 8000 of the 144000 are dead?
who will be their leaders?
the nethinim class?
No, because there will always be those who claim to be of the "annointed". Considering that the religion has been around (in some form) since the late 1800's. Then the classes were formed. The religion started their own cast system. There will always be those that want to be part of the higher class, and will claim to have moved up the ranks.
(beating death) .
http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-beat28.htmljury convicts dad of whipping girl to death .
april 28, 2006. by stefano esposito staff reporter .
T-4-2 - easier said then done.
I was in another state one day when I saw a women with a total of 5 kids, they all looked like they were 5 and under. One of the babies looked like she might have been 4. She happened to walk away from mommy and next thing I knew I saw the mother grab that baby and take a switch to her - on her face, on her back, all over. We were in the middle of a crowded big city block. I was shocked, and turned in circles and screamed HELP! HELP! All the while people walked right by me. This woman disappeared from my sight. I called 911 on my cell and felt like I was lost. When the police came, there was nothing I could do, I did not know where the women went and NO ONE STOPPED when I was screaming HELP and turning in circles. Now you may have asked why I did not chase after this women, because I was in shock. I was frozen in time.
Every single day of my life since then, I have sent out a silent prayer, vibes, good karma, whatever you want to call them ... to this little girl and her siblings that someone out there helps her, someone out there loves her enough to make this stop. To this day, I weep over that scene that plays thru my head. The reason I got into volunteering at a crisis center for abused women and children was because of this child. My only soliace is that even though I may not have been able to help this little girl, I can help others like her.
while driving today i decided to listen to am radio for a change, and came across a religious station.
their guest (don't remember who) had just written a book denouncing psychology and psychotherapay, calling it the "devil's deception".
he derided christian clergy who have taken training in counseling, saying they are pawns of the devil if they don't rely soley on the bible in helping people.
Freud started and others have since followed the psychoanalytic movement. Freud's books Beyond the Pleasure Principle and The Ego and the Id are very interesting and many have built off of Freud's studies. There are many theories of psychology - here are some basics that might seem a little interesting in light of JWs and what they have experienced in the process of living the life as such or leaving the religion:
Alfred Adler - the central idea in Adierian thinking is the "feeling of inferiority". The goal of every one to varying degrees is to overcome this feeling by manifesting superiority. This striving toward superirority may be expressed as an attempt to dominate others which is negative, childish, neurotic, or at the other extreme it may take the form of a striving to master life's difficulties.
Carl Jung - the collective unconscious (arhetypes). Jung believe in racial inheritance which is shared by all groups of mankind. Archetypes emerge in fairy tales, folk legends and religious traditions. In many religions there is a story of a fall from a lost paradise and of a crucial battle of angels or gods. The persona and the shadow is another theory. The persona is the social front, the facade or the mask that each person puts forth for [the] society (the exact term that Jung used). The shadow is the undeveloped part of the human personality, the other self, distinguised from the persona.
Eric Fromm - Fromm believes that culture is the major shaper of personality. He believes in character types. Authoritarian, humanistic, receiptive, exploitative, hoarding and productive. He also believed in forms of relatedness.
Erik Erikson - He supports some of Freud's beliefs. He pursued child psychoanalysist and became interested in the growth of the ego. Erikson was intrested in how the personality was affected by culture and society. A person's identity is the produce of three forces: your body, your mind and your environment. Eight stages of life: Basic trust v. basic mistrust; autonomy v. shame and doubt; initiative v. guilt; industriousness v. conformity; identity v. role confusion; intimacy v. isolation; generativity v. stagnation and ego integrity v. despair.
I have found thru the study of psychology that I am able to deal with my JW family and the belief system that was established and was the structure of my being for years until I left. I think that many fundamentalist religions are afraid of people looking inside themself to find happiness, because they count on people looking outside themselves for happiness. What will these religions do if people find happiness within themselves and not in fundementalist religions. Wow people may actually start to have a mind of their own.
P.S - sorry this post is really long ... obviously this is an obsession with me! Ahh the reason for psychology.
