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  What's a JW's main motivator?

  by PopeOfEruke in

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  what's the main motivating force behind the average jw?.

  i'd say it's a fear of their own death.

  fear of dying.

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  mavie

  Biggest motivator has got to be Death Anxiety.
  
  An example of this behavior can be found in my experience with family and friends. During my exit my father denied the logical reasoning I used to shoot holes in the JW religion by saying, "Where else will you go?". Also, in reference to my belief that there is no God and therefore all humans alive today will eventually die and be forgotten, "That is so sad". He has to believe there is more to this life. He hasn't come to terms with his own mortality.
  
  JW's do not have a copyright on death anxiety though, it can be seen as *the* driving force behind most religions of the world.
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  How to Get a JW to think about Field Service

  by mavie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was having dinner and good conversation tonight.

  i was relating some of my past to a close friend.

  i was describing the field service arrangement and in particular how field service is reported.

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  mavie

  I was having dinner and good conversation tonight. I was relating some of my past to a close friend. I was describing the field service arrangement and in particular how field service is reported. Then it hit me! If I am ever approached by a JW while they are presenting magazines or other literature, I will respond:
  
  "I would love to have a Bible study with you on one condition, that you are not allowed to report the time you spend preparing, traveling, or studying with me on your monthly field service report."
  
  This will reveal their true motive. If by chance you get a zealous JW who agrees, you can raise a number of thought provoking questions during the first study. I doubt they will come back.
  
  It's a win-win!
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  Well, here comes a judicial committee

  by drew sagan in

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  see post below.

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  mavie

  Sounds like the 'good' elder might have his eyes opened after he observes how you are treated. You are handling this great Sagan.
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  This Post Will Offend Current JWs: Annie Lennox should be avoided

  by mtsgrad in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the language is leaving me.

  the language is leaving me.

  the language is leaving me in silence.

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  mavie

  Juni wrote:
  
  I like a variety of music and I like Annie Lennox.
  
  The JW organization finds fault w/almost, if not, everything. Always the worst case scenario too.
  
  I'm sure a lot of the great composers weren't squeaky clean either. But they want to overlook that.
  
  
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  Actually Juni I had an Elder warn me about the classical music I selected for my JW wedding. He said something to the effect of 'Some classical music is demon inspired.' I think I rolled my eyes.
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  This Post Will Offend Current JWs: Annie Lennox should be avoided

  by mtsgrad in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the language is leaving me.

  the language is leaving me.

  the language is leaving me in silence.

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  mavie

  Well, Marilyn Manson covered "Sweet Dreams" so it *must* be demonic!
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  Zone talk by David Splane - Four figurative giants - Education etc

  by truthseeker in

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  2. friends

  found this interesting talk on e-watchman's site.

  it was given by david splane, a gb member.. the talk is really interesting as it gives a more focused look at the troubles the society is facing as it trys to cope with education, peer pressure etc.. .

  http://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=454.

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  mavie

  Does anyone have a recording of this talk? I'd like to hear it.
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  Thinking of a tattoo

  by mavie in

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  2. friends

  http://ytcsummit.com/figurines/6353l.jpg.

  http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/2162619/1/istockphoto_2162619_medieval_phoenix.jpg.

  http://www.annekelly.com/picts/medieval_phoenix.jpg.

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  mavie

  Check out this artist:
  
  http://www.infinitytattoo.com/index.cfm?page=artist&artistID=1
  
  http://www.bascue.com/infinity/images/artists/amanda/DSCN1349.JPG
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  Thinking of a tattoo

  by mavie in

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  http://ytcsummit.com/figurines/6353l.jpg.

  http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/2162619/1/istockphoto_2162619_medieval_phoenix.jpg.

  http://www.annekelly.com/picts/medieval_phoenix.jpg.

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  mavie

  Thanks RR and Poppers. It's hard to find a good Phoenix design. I'll PM you my location RR>
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  Thinking of a tattoo

  by mavie in

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  http://ytcsummit.com/figurines/6353l.jpg.

  http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/2162619/1/istockphoto_2162619_medieval_phoenix.jpg.

  http://www.annekelly.com/picts/medieval_phoenix.jpg.

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  mavie

  These are ok...I need to find a good artist
  
  http://ytcsummit.com/figurines/6353l.jpg
  
  http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/2162619/1/istockphoto_2162619_medieval_phoenix.jpg
  
  http://www.annekelly.com/picts/medieval_phoenix.jpg
  
  http://www.tattoos-by-design.co.uk/rate_my_tattoo/tattoos/tattoo/act/118329670560.jpg
  
  http://zemothe44.tripod.com/tats/tattoo004.JPG
  
  http://www.tourvic.com/toddmcintosh/images/bigtattoo.jpeg
  
  http://vicariousrising.typepad.com/photos/test/phoenix_tattoo_by_oreozili.jpg
  
  http://www.tattooblog.org/images/backpiece-buddha-tattoo_49.jpg
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  Went to visit the EX

  by anewme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have been dfd and divorced from the ex for six years now.

  i have remarried and been living in a idyllic cabin by a year round creek all this time but i might have to move.

  so i have been going through all my stuff and discarding what i can to lighten my moving load and reviewing every item, every picture, every little piece of paper.

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  mavie

  Thank you for sharing this story. This response by your ex-husband:
  
  "Anewme, if only you would come back to the Jehovahs organization we could be better friends.
  We could see each other again and you could spend time with the nieces who love you so much."
  
  This reminded me of this quote from "Buddhism Without Beliefs" by Stephen Bachelor on friendship:
  
  "We should be wary of being seduced by charismatic purveyors of Enlightenment. For true friends seek not to coerce us, even gently and reasonably, into believing what we are unsure of. These friends are like midwives, who draw forth what is waiting to be born. Their task is not to make themselves indispensable but redundant."
  
  Being divorced myself, I think you handled this situation with great dignity and grace.
  
  Well done.