the koolaid wt issue for february has an interesting article about when your baptism can be considered invalid.but the main thrust of the article is aimed at making it super clear that if you were present at your bapt.
talk and answered the two questions then forget about it, elders are put on notice to not let anyone off the hook.but... if you were committing a serious sin and hid it at the time of your baptism, then it was invalid, and point is, they'd still announce you not being "one of j.w.s" so if you plead your case to walk away from the wt saying you didn't know what you were getting into, it will do no good, but it will be grounds for an announcement.just ol' mother wt tightening up loose ends.
is where not a law, that gives you fredom of religion?
so they live up to the UN charter?
can we trust JW in this case? have the Wathtower a damage control department, to avoid damage to them?
and who can we trust anyway?
and in all this we have to be fair about who is what and who is not.
we can't blame them for some one who is not a member of the congregation anymore.
but a good question, woulde be,
if he stoppet with being a JW. then how far back, did he do what?
and was he a JW, meanwhiel he was a rapist?
the case startet 1990 what is 18 years back, what is a long time ago.
so why did he stop being a JW?
was he disassociated, and have JW some knowlede, what coulde have stoppet him, manny years ago?
Theocratick warfare, the JW are marsters in it.
all those questions, all those lie.
some JW in Denmark lie so mush, what i think they are saving up to a paradise in hell.
maybe it is why i'm a bit paranoya about what JW say ;)
have it nice all, and thanks for the info BluesBrother
this paper say he is a JW
as they write:
Senior officers at Scotland Yard want to know why the suspect wasn't stopped well before the number of alleged victims reached 200.
The internal probe was launched as the father of 11 children appeared at court yesterday charged with sex attacks on 11 elderly women.
Grant heard a clerk read out the 22 charges of rape, indecent assault and burglary.
The twice-married Jehovah's Witness could face further charges.
Detectives have until Thursday to quiz him about 200 rapes, sexual assaults and burglaries across South London dating back to 1990.
even with my jw wife.....i have told her for awhile she is prob better off without me....i was party central in jwland....nobody has had me over for two years now....i guess cause i could not shut up about some real truths about the so-called truth....now i have agreed to shut up....these guys really do have a right to their own beliefs...i am very non-judgemental and always have been......i should have shut up two years ago or so...but damm......trying to fit in with your own marriage in order to save being shunned from your blood family and a very few what is left dub friends just sucks.....starting over at midlife is such a bitch.....such a bitch..........oompa.
and ya...the fear of the unknown is really present......if all i have known is jw...i will prob not fit into real world either.
With all this silency, you are doing eksakly what the wathtower want you to do, avoide telling JW, they are living in a lie.
so even after you have left them, they are still controlling your life.
controling what you may say, and not to say.
You have the liberty to free speach. a cult may not take what away from you.
and by the way, if people can't accept you as you are, they don't deserve to know you, and a life with out your company, is for sure more borring, whan a life with you. so with the wathtowers pimp politiks, only to give love to people who don't ruin bussiness for them.
but we can allso play what game, if you have not notise it ;)
and it is a lot more fun, to be love as you are, and not love as they can change you to be.
well happy fathers day all:)
iam sure many of you here have heard this comment when you were a jw..is this a good analogy to prove.
creationism?
if you have a automobile that have not been assemble how long will it take without any.
creatism is only talking about the middle of things. never the start of allthings.
becourse in the begining here was nothing, and nothing create anything else. and how can a sentient being star at the beginning of everything?
maybe he came from another world, but what will only move the beginning of everything to another dimention. and we woulde end up with the same problem again.
personaly, i dont belive in the beginning of the universe, i think it have allwayes been here.
the temperature of the univers is only a exprestion of how long time it have been since a big bang acure in our center of the universe.
if god eksist he woulde have to be some kind of fate. and a kruel one, to have created evolution. he he
a fire that destroyed a kingdom hall in mesa, arizona was possibly arson.. "fire that destroyed mesa church called 'suspicious' ".
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2009/02/13/20090213churchfire0214.html.
have a lightning ever hit a KH, so it burnt down?
technically it hasn't but we did have an ice storm.
if i told her i got a call that there was no meeting maybe she'd stay home and watch "american idol" or something fun heheh.
personally i think it should automatically be cancelled for the elderly's sake.
tell her it is Jehovah, who is trying to tell her, to avoid people, who take name after people who is mocking jesus in the bible. ;)
matt 27:40 ....If you are God’s Son, come down 2 from the cross!” In 1 the same way even the chief priests – together with the experts in the law 2 and elders 3 – were mocking him:
or does this not count in JW?
i'm pleased to publish the second issue of the witchtower, containing translated articles of german erbrechet!
the internet - satans trap: how dangerous is it?.
should christians use wireless technology?
Do you all so have a link on the first issue?
for this is really funny :)
i speceally like the part with the calender.
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-wellbeing/health-news/the-medical-miracle-1024576.html.
a modern miracle - and there will be much more to come as science fufills decades of empty watchtower promises.. .
metatron.
Sometimes at operation, peopel get frosen down(dead) and get frosen up again after the operation, they will be dead for some time, so the resurektion of the dead, is not at myth anymore ;)
it's about the ex-withness behind the scenes.
and about what he thinks about it.
but here is the artikel.
It's about the ex-withness behind the scenes. and about what he thinks about it.
but here is the artikel.
http://www.religion.dk/artikel/279295:Synspunkt--Vi-skal-ikke-latterliggoere-Jehovas-Vidner
translated by google
Kristian Molbo
For a half year ago, I was contacted by Niels Arden Oplev, who wanted to know something about the Jehovah's Witnesses. He was then to make script for a movie with their religious environment as the focal point.
At the time I was chairman of Suportgroup for former Jehovah's Witnesses. It is an association which has as its purpose to provide aid and support to people who, for one reason or another might have it difficult because of Jehovah's Witnesses. They are typically on the former Jehovah's Witnesses.
The line I had for the association was that our rhetoric should not be hateful and should above all be lying. It should be objective and balanced. There should be room for that also could tell on the good aspects of the Jehovah's Witnesses. All should not just be negative. Most of us had, after all, been there for many years and had both good memories and good friends derindefra, but could equally well be good reasons to leave them. You would of course we also like to talk about.
Niels had exactly the same approach to things. He was well aware that it was too cheap and simplified the production of Jehovah's Witnesses as stupid or callous people and he wanted not to caricature them or make them a laughing stock. It would be incredible. He wanted to portray the environment as it is and show that there in fact is quite ordinary people who just take a fundamentalist philosophy. That was what he told me, and when I saw his last movie dream, I was only confirmed that view.
Niels managed, in my view, to tell things as they seem on both sides of hækken without compromise on the nuances. At the same time, I had a good feeling that he understood what it was about. He could get acquainted with what the Jehovah's Witnesses thought and thought and it was crucial that the project could be successful.
This was the basis for our further cooperation to portray the environment as realistic as possible. I gennemlæste script and gave comments to corrections and clarifications in the dialogues, so it sounded like Jehovah's Witnesses would express themselves. I helped to explain how the Jehovah's Witnesses would react in different situations. I took pictures from rallies and rigssale, images of clothing and decorations, movie clips from the series on youtube mm. I helped to find literature from the Jehovah's Witnesses, which could be used and be inspired, in connection with scenografien and create the right environment for example. a home from the Jehovah's Witnesses. Not least, I helped to provide an introduction to the Jehovah's Witnesses thinking and trosopfattelser.
Niels was very inquisitive and asked questions to the many details and his position was that although there would be some artistic liberties, it should not be possible to point the finger of anything. There should be nothing wrong or løgnagtigt in relation to the portrayal of Jehovah's Witnesses.
The course ran and I took a couple of recordings, where appropriate. For example. I gave direct instructions on how to baptizing and was in the pool, so døberen themselves could try on me a few times. Furthermore, I was involved stævneoptagelserne and so on the train is authentic, because it was a relatively large setup.
Finally, I was invited to see the film a few months before prime time. Apart from a few småjusteringer, it was finished. In the near some småkommentarer I was very impressed. I sat several times with the feeling of being present in the environment. Particularly the scene where Sarah to the three oldest must tell you that she has slept with Theis, I think, very successful. It is my experience that it is difficult to explain to outsiders what is happening in such a situation, but the film showed it just as it was! The well-intentioned care of the elders who do their duty while in reality they exceed some very personal borders of a young man with samvittighedskvaler. Right in the eye!
I must say that the film lives up to my wish not to expose and ridicule Jehovah's Witnesses. It shows the community on good and evil and what happens if they choose to stand outside. Niels has its style was good to get the nuances forward and show karakterernes personality and the fact that Jehovah's Witnesses are being produced with the personality and feelings are really good.
It is all too easy to exhibit a religious community, in the manner emit, as a collection of callous people who simply turns its back on. That is the reality, the reality is that it is quite ordinary Danes, people who love their children and want the best for them. It is also fundamentalist Christians who are willing to cut off from their loved ones, if necessary. In a major cause takes the pain in the certainty that they acted for the sake of God and the community. Two Verdener have caught that message and I am personally pleased that have been created a story that will become even stronger, because it just is credible. It is taken out of a reality which hands right now.
Kristian Molbo, former Jehovah's Witness
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