Fair enough...:)
I like facts
1. that judge rutherford had a mistress.
2. that he died from a fall down the basement stiars where he cracked open his skull and the rats fed on him.. 3. that his son, malcolm, left immediately after his father became president and lived the life of a hermit, never to speak to or about his father until in death in 1995.. 4. that the judge was a womenizer, alcoholic and racist and dabbled with the occult.. _______________.
never take a laxative and a sleeping pill on the same night.. edited by - rr on 27 january 2001 13:44:18
Fair enough...:)
I like facts
1. that judge rutherford had a mistress.
2. that he died from a fall down the basement stiars where he cracked open his skull and the rats fed on him.. 3. that his son, malcolm, left immediately after his father became president and lived the life of a hermit, never to speak to or about his father until in death in 1995.. 4. that the judge was a womenizer, alcoholic and racist and dabbled with the occult.. _______________.
never take a laxative and a sleeping pill on the same night.. edited by - rr on 27 january 2001 13:44:18
So how do I get these facts documented.
1. that judge rutherford had a mistress.
2. that he died from a fall down the basement stiars where he cracked open his skull and the rats fed on him.. 3. that his son, malcolm, left immediately after his father became president and lived the life of a hermit, never to speak to or about his father until in death in 1995.. 4. that the judge was a womenizer, alcoholic and racist and dabbled with the occult.. _______________.
never take a laxative and a sleeping pill on the same night.. edited by - rr on 27 january 2001 13:44:18
aah, we are back to circumstancial evidence once more.
That is not very fair. I dont mind blaming the GB for factual inconsistencies, that is the right of every thinking person, but to blatantly post as a fact that Rutherford had a mistress only to retract or "explain" later that you were basing it on hearsay....or unproven evidence..........in a court of law you would be found guilty of slander, and rightly so.
come on RR, the reason the GB win credibility is precisely because of comments like yours. You didnt let the truth stand in the way of the facts...
Please, why dont you stick to facts, and that way we wont become another group of people believing untruths.....
1. that judge rutherford had a mistress.
2. that he died from a fall down the basement stiars where he cracked open his skull and the rats fed on him.. 3. that his son, malcolm, left immediately after his father became president and lived the life of a hermit, never to speak to or about his father until in death in 1995.. 4. that the judge was a womenizer, alcoholic and racist and dabbled with the occult.. _______________.
never take a laxative and a sleeping pill on the same night.. edited by - rr on 27 january 2001 13:44:18
Larc, would be interested in you elaborating a little on information pertaining to the mistress you talk about....
sir i do not know you or claim too.
this world is a funny place, and the people in it are even stranger.
some people get validation from their families and others get it from outside of their families.
the mark of a true Christian is the display of love.
Arrogance, haughtiness and the lack of the above quality, scripturally prohibit me from taking any individuals or groups message as inspired.
Sad really, we have one collection of sincere men who give us new light in due course, and now someone wants to take their place with a different message, same attitude.
Im so glad Jehovah wrote in the Bible what to look out for and be forewarned.
my huband posed something to me yesterday that i had never even thought of before.
he said, wouldn't it be possible that if a group <ie.
jehovahs witnesses> fell out of gods favor, what would stop him from choosing another group?
It is my experience:
That those claiming to have divine guidance and knowledge of truth, usually dont.
That those claiming the aforementioned qualities are the most sarcastic and demeaning of all postulators of unproven theories.
That usually the fall from grace is public and painful.
i have been reading this site for a couple of months.
last night i stayed up all night, (not unusual for me though) and read the posts by ......well you know...the new kid on the block...who created so much fury.
at first i thought she was a fake, and i still do.
interesting concept that the upbringing gets in the way...
never really thought about that.....
your quite clever really....
thanks everyone!
you were very supportive and helpful on this subject.. <with the exception of the idiot at the end lol>.
edited by - eyes_opened on 23 january 2001 19:40:40
NickL or Disfellowshipped or whatever...
What is your problem?! If you want to be reinstated, then you have NO business being here. You have chosen to enter a no no area..as far as the Society are concerned..wait! you ARe disfellowshipped....aah, they no longer care..you have been given over to Satan....
Strange as it might seem, mostly ALL the posters here are fully aware and are conversant with all the moral, ethical, legal, scriptural and judgements as outlined by the WTB&TS....
Your demeaning post might just be an indication of your mental outlook which may be a contributing factor to the judicial inquiry which led to your expulsion.....on the other hand.. you may just be another person seeking justification of your own wrongdoing.. or perhaps you didnt do anything wrong..? oh wait! you said you did a "foolish thing"...wait!...did you not express repentance..?
in any case.. welcome....
1975 was an important date to the Witnesses. No..I didnt quite believe big A was going to happen ... but I didnt quite believe it was not going to happen either.
You see, as an 18 year old at the time, I believed totally in the infallibility of the governing body. Their word was gospel. Now, as I read all the retrospective history of Jehovahs Witnesses, I cannot quite accept the blame or the inference that my perspective was and is not accurate, my recollections ARE accurate to the point that I can quote chapter on verse of the expressions used by elders, C.O's and even members of the GB....
So please dont tell me that it was all my choice or responsibility.. I just followed the leader(s) as instructed.
Now Im told it was a weeding out process..well excuse me, Jehovah doesnt weed out people through misinformation and redirection and suppression...it was a mistake for which accountability must be upheld by Jehovah in his due time...
More important than 1975 is the change of the 1914 issue and generation understanding....now that hurts more than anything...
Only this time....I really dont have any feeling about it except irritation and anger at the constant interpretation of scripture by a voting process which may or may not affect my life....
I find it hard to accept that members of the GB may be going against their own bible trained conscience in accepting decrees as unanimous for the sake of loyalty to the majority on the committee............
its a mess.
i have been reading this site for a couple of months.
last night i stayed up all night, (not unusual for me though) and read the posts by ......well you know...the new kid on the block...who created so much fury.
at first i thought she was a fake, and i still do.
er....
you remind me of someone notperfectyet....