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THE EX-[ELDERS] FILES: EYES WIDE SHUT
by AMNESIAN in(dont let the title scare or piss you off.
stay with it to the end---even if it takes you a while---and then, if you wish, by all means get pissed as you wanna be.
(final edit, thursday, january 10, 2002, 11:00 a.m. pst, usa).
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AMAZING - Exposing Elders (re: Expose Ave...
by AMNESIAN inreplying to:.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=17880&site=3.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=17923&site=3.
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The time of your life...or... Time IS your life
by Deacon inits the only thing we have control over..time that is...we can choose to do with it what we will.. how much we give to others, to a cause, to a religion, to an ideal..we have dominion over our time...our choice of allocation to that specific arena in the passage of life.. we hurt ourselves we we give minutes or hours to pursuits that dont match our own ideals or beliefs..... seventy years is not long in terms of minutes or hours..... as an ex witness, i came to the conclusion recently that the biblical issue is really between god and his son satan....we just got caught up in it.
i no longer have the time or the energy to pursue a mans interpretation of what is the correct view or stance or attitude to have in regard to what the bible is all about, all i can do is say... .. " god...im lost, confused and dissapointed that it wasnt clearer...and how come you gave very clear direction to your servants in the bible, but the wt organisation seem to just limp from one opinion to another..and how come not a single book containing important prophecy interpretation by the spiritual director fred franz in still in print or refered to?".
hmmmm
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Logic of God escapes me
by Amazing inin past posts i have placed god on trial by questioning two issues: 1) the issues in the graden of eden, and the severe punishment of the entire human race for a very minor act of eating fruit.
2) god ordering the extermination of entire cities, including every last man, woman, child, baby, and even livestock.. results: the result on this forum have be mixed as expected, but showed a range from suport to tryuionmg top explain these events with reasoning, logic, or plausibilities.
some felt that i might be losing my faith.
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Question for those who know psychology?
by D wiltshire inmy question is:.
a little girl who is part of my family has the habit of always holding on to people's ear lobs, mainly with persons who are close to her whether they are a relative or not?.
what are the causes for this type of behavor?.
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WTS and UN: Compatible Agencies II
by FatJackMcCracken inover my nearly 30 years in the watchtower world, i personally conducted about two hundred interviews with the friends.
much of what was confided to me was (i) of the don't-repeat-to-anyone category (and i intend to repect those persons wishes),(ii) others who were willing to be identified as to a particular source of information,(iii) and still others had esoteric information which they were fearful of possessing and (iv) my own experiences and my own research efforts into an organization that i once wrongly believed could be honest and would tell the truth.
when i left, i was quite disinterested in the xjw movement, because it seemed to be linked to the watchtower culture of cruelty, but in a reverse sort of manner.
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100 Good Samaritans needed
by Trilobite intwo of this board's, and h2o's before it,long time and well known participants have fallen on desperately hard times.
if they could set up pay pal accounts and enough of us could contribute say $20 - $50 per month it would help them though their hardship.. these two people have helped many escape from the wts and i know for sure have given money and other material help to those in need, even when they could not afford it.. if you can help, send an email to: [email protected].
you need not include any particulars of who you are etc, just an indication that you could support this and how much you could send.
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Ruminations..whatever that means....
by Deacon ini read with interest java;s post re: a therapists view of leaving a restrictive religion.. using my own experiences, and those of others on the board, it would appear that there are only two ways to go, and one path that has to be taken in order to make sense or order of the situation.. i had to ask myself and do some heavy research as to what i no longer believe and why.. this is my present understanding on the matter.. shunning is a defence mechanism for the protection of the wtbts in order to keep members in and neutralise bad press.. 1914 would seem to be in serious error as a correct date in the chronology.. dichotomies exist within the organisation as to the anointed of god, the governing body and rulership thereof.. continual guessing and speculation of dates throughout its brief history, is unscriptural, unbalanced and just plain deceitful.. the elder arrangement is not working.
it is run on a set of cast in stone rulings from the governing body and proves no function other than to keep dissedents in check.... there is no real human love in any of the arrangements despite the usage of the words.. disfellowshipping destroys families regardless of the public message promoted by the wtbts.. disfellowshipping utilises, grief, sorrow, unworthiness, shame, hurt, physical seperation and unjust means to whip someone to their senses..or return with a broken spirit to be in servitude forever.. being a member of the wtbts is seriously ijurious to personal mental health.. i no longer believe that the wtbts has a clear direction from the creator, i no longer believe that the message of urgency is based on accuracy or common sense.
i no longer believe that there is a common goal anymore, it has been surpassed by maintaining and increasing material possessons.